Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
12-02-2017, 17:16
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
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It will be good when Sky confirm HDR on Sky Q.
For most people, who generally buy average size TVs and sit at normal viewing distances, 4K will make minimal PQ improvements. But HDR will bring PQ enhancements to all size screens, not just those who have room for 65" TV screens!
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12-02-2017, 17:23
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by passingbat
It will be good when Sky confirm HDR on Sky Q.
For most people, who generally buy average size TVs and sit at normal viewing distances, 4K will make minimal PQ improvements. But HDR will bring PQ enhancements to all size screens, not just those who have room for 65" TV screens!
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It will come before much longer. I believe Sky have just been waiting for standards to be agreed, and now that's settled, expect to see progress on this soon.
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12-02-2017, 17:30
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by passingbat
It will be good when Sky confirm HDR on Sky Q.
For most people, who generally buy average size TVs and sit at normal viewing distances, 4K will make minimal PQ improvements. But HDR will bring PQ enhancements to all size screens, not just those who have room for 65" TV screens!
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To be fair they are right not to rush it as I believe there are a few competing standards aren't there?
Dolby Vision , HDR10 and Hybrid Log-Gamma many current TV's won't handle them all.
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12-02-2017, 17:30
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
Will they put a high enough bit rate to make it work? Most of the HD channels fail woefully here: The moment the scene pans or zooms all the HD goes belly up and this applies to even the mainstream channels.
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12-02-2017, 17:32
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
To be fair they are right not to rush it as I believe there are a few competing standards aren't there?
Dolby Vision , HDR10 and Hybrid Log-Gamma.
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Agreed.
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12-02-2017, 17:43
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by passingbat
Agreed.
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Is the HDR on the V6 enabled for YouTube and Netflix yet as that should be a nice update.
This is a good read on Netflix HDR and the technology it uses.
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12-02-2017, 18:32
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
Is the HDR on the V6 enabled for YouTube and Netflix yet as that should be a nice update.
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I don't know. My interest in HDR is future. I have non smart 1080p TV in the lounge, which I'm extremely happy with, PQ wise, and won't change until necessary. I expect by then 4K will be standard for any quality TV, and because of being limited by size constraints to below the optimum for 4K, HDR will be a priority for any future purchase.
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12-02-2017, 18:52
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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It will come before much longer. I believe Sky have just been waiting for standards to be agreed, and now that's settled, expect to see progress on this soon.
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Well Sky Ultra HD can best be described as 'UHD lite'' They are still using the HD colour space Rec 709 when the accepted standard is Rec 2020. It seems their compliace with recommended standards is a bit fast & loose.
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BT.2020, aka Rec.2020 (so called because it's supposed to be adopted by the year 2020) is actually a collection of standards, including the aforementioned 10-bit color depth, and like color depth it refers to the breadth of colors a panel is capable of displaying.
BT.2020 differs from the currently used Rec.709 standard, its use results in a larger span of colors being available to TV viewers, which more accurately capture the colors we can see in the real world.
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12-02-2017, 19:40
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
Which broadcasters currently support Rec.2020 ?
I know Ultra HD Blu Ray does but who else ?
Last edited by muppetman11; 12-02-2017 at 20:06.
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12-02-2017, 20:10
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by fenman35
Well Sky Ultra HD can best be described as 'UHD lite'' They are still using the HD colour space Rec 709 when the accepted standard is Rec 2020. It seems their compliace with recommended standards is a bit fast & loose.
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BT.2020, aka Rec.2020 (so called because it's supposed to be adopted by the year 2020) is actually a collection of standards, including the aforementioned 10-bit color depth, and like color depth it refers to the breadth of colors a panel is capable of displaying.
BT.2020 differs from the currently used Rec.709 standard, its use results in a larger span of colors being available to TV viewers, which more accurately capture the colors we can see in the real world.
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Well its not really UHD lite as it is the proper resolution for it. Just because it isn't HDR it doesn't make it lite. Many 4K TVs don't even support HDR.
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12-02-2017, 20:57
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
Which broadcasters currently support Rec.2020 ?
I know Ultra HD Blu Ray does but who else ?
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12-02-2017, 21:05
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by fenman35
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HDR broadcasts ? BT Sport and Sky Sports both don't include HDR in their UHD broadcast currently.
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13-02-2017, 02:28
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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We have thick walls - we live in a 1950s built house. The superhub is in a different room from the V6s and the wifi works perfectly.
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This.
In the real world, wi-fi works exceptionally well.
In vmplants (sorry, spiderplants) world, if it doesn't work PERFECTLY the fault is anyone else except VM.
Pathetic.
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13-02-2017, 07:55
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
OhReally, this is the second time we have had to address a complaint, that involves an issue with your attitude, especially towards VM Associates who help on here, in their own free time. If you do not agree with what they say, agree to disagree, stop moping about the forum, stop being rude and stop trying to put them down with cheap digs.
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13-02-2017, 09:48
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
Well I got my V6 installed on Saturday. I had a 1-6 slot and he came at 1:25. The installation took around 35 minutes including showing him how Logitech Harmony remotes work :-) The only downer was having to supply my own network cable for the install. I would have thought they would have supplied this.
I copied over the series links and everything came up in about an hour or so.
So far, I am super impressed, it's so fast! Half of the features of the old Tivo were unusable as the box was so slow.
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