Global warming 'past the point of no return'

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

But they are trustworty right, Told us Bird Flu was a pandemic killer and sars would spread all across the land, Swine flu was the next big deal... For what so we would spend money on crap we didnt need!?

It's was news reporting, not 'scientists' whom you seem to have contempt for, who caused panic but in those cases they were viruses and the scientists were saying what could happen if it were to spread easier.

[adzii_nufc]

Originally Posted by Damien

It's was news reporting, not 'scientists' whom you seem to have contempt for, who caused panic but in those cases they were viruses and the scientists were saying what could happen if it were to spread easier.

Well that seems to be typical then? Always what could happen with them...

Never what will happen?

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Well that seems to be typical then? Always what could happen with them...

Never what will happen?

You want psychics then, not scientists.

Scientists can show what has happened, what is happening, and the likelihood of what is to happen in future given the current set of data. They have concluded that given the past rate of warming, the current effects (ice caps melting), and historical events to say it's most likely we will see more unpredictable weather and a heating up of the atmosphere.

For those who correctly point out that Global Warming has occurred naturally in the past, yes, but your leaving out the part that those periods of warming took centenaries and not less than 100 years as ours has done. n

[adzii_nufc]

Originally Posted by Damien

You want psychics then, not scientists.

The Argument will go nowhere because 50% of people are willing to believe what is put in front of them and the other 50% couldnt care less about this elaborate scheme

Everyone has opinions and if This Global Warming was such a 'Serious threat' there would be a lot more going on than there is at the minute Because Honestly It seems most countires are not buying this crap either..

Yes but how do you know Its been the last 100 years. We have no idea if they have predicted anything correctly?

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

The Argument will go nowhere because 50% of people are willing to believe what is put in front of them and the other 50% couldnt care less about this elaborate scheme

I kind of hope that more than 50% will believe the scientific argument over the conspirational, ill-informed argument that you have put forward. You claim it's a trick but you have yet to produce evidence while the scientists, who know a lot more about science, have produced evidence. I.E The acculturated rate of warming over previous warming cycles as well as a explanation into how this is being caused. You have said "it's all a con". Who do you think a observer is going to believe?

Everyone has opinions and if This Global Warming was such a 'Serious threat' there would be a lot more going on than there is at the minute Because Honestly It seems most countires are not buying this crap either..

Because Global Warming is an expensive thing for a country to deal with. Some industries will be hit hard because they can produce a lot more at a cheaper rate if they use populating methods. If people use more fuel efficient cars, they pay less tax as well as needing less fuel. Meaning less tax.

Yes but how do you know Its been the last 100 years. We have no idea if they have predicted anything correctly?

Predicted = future.
Last 100 years = Past.

You don't need to 'predict' what has happened in the last 100 years.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

But they are trustworty right, Told us Bird Flu was a pandemic killer and sars would spread all across the land, Swine flu was the next big deal... For what so we would spend money on crap we didnt need!?

The media told you that.. Also, what crap have you bought that you don't need? All our government have asked us to do (as consumers) is use cars less, switch things off at the mains (which would save you money compared to using standby mode), seperate out recyclable waste (which is maybe 10 minutes work a week) and buy energy efficient bulbs when our incandescent bulbs blow).

anyone noticed that already this global warming crap is dying down..

used to be shoved in our faces everyday and now you get the odd advert

Yes, the media got bored with hyping it. You don't hear nearly as much about AIDS, yet it is *still* a deadly disease and infection rates are rising..

Every so often a 'problem arises' like the ones mentioned above, and its the people who refuse to buy that crap that defeat the problem. We refuse to listen to this Diabolical Nonsense anymore. We have been fed crap for years on end and we have toppled it by simply refusing, Global warming is no different... It has come.. it will go.. we shall laugh again

Prove Global Warming isn't happening..

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Damien

Scientists can show what has happened, what is happening, and the likelihood of what is to happen in future given the current set of data.

They can give an opinion, a hypothesis, but given the same sets of data scientists disagree. Data and trends can be interpreted many ways which gives conflicting results.

There is as much compelling data to prove that humans activity is not the source of climate change as there is that proves we are.

They have concluded

some have concluded

that given the past rate of warming, the current effects (ice caps melting), and historical events to say it's most likely we will see more unpredictable weather and a heating up of the atmosphere.

For those who correctly point out that Global Warming has occurred naturally in the past, yes, but your leaving out the part that those periods of warming took centenaries and not less than 100 years as ours has done. n

Who is to say that this cycle is less than a 100years we could be in the advanced stages of a warming cycle that started 100s of years ago.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Well that seems to be typical then? Always what could happen with them...

Never what will happen?

Scientists don't deal in absolutes. That is one of the points that was made earlier in the thread.

Scienstists produce theories based upon the best evidence available to them at the time they produce the theories. Of course, further evidence may be discovered that disproves that theory, so the theory is then disputed and either disregarded or improved.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

Prove Global Warming isn't happening..

Climate change is real.................you prove that it's caused by human activity.

Originally Posted by Pierre

They can give an opinion, a hypothesis, but given the same sets of data scientists disagree. Data and trends can be interpreted many ways which gives conflicting results.

There is as much compelling data to prove that humans activity is not the source of climate change as there is that proves we are.

some have concluded

The majority have concluded. Enough to say, that the scientific community is behind the idea. The place this is being fought is not that community but outside of it.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Climate change is real.................you prove that it's caused by human activity.

I have never argued it is.. My personal belief is that global warming is caused by some natural cycle. I try to be environmentally friendly because I personally don't see the point in wasting our planet's limited fuel reserves (regardless of whether you believe we cause Global Warming or not, we have finite supplies of oil and coal that are likely to run out in our lifetime). And, the money saved in energy costs (when that happens) is good..

[adzii_nufc]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

The media told you that.. Also, what crap have you bought that you don't need? All our government have asked us to do (as consumers) is use cars less, switch things off at the mains (which would save you money compared to using standby mode), seperate out recyclable waste (which is maybe 10 minutes work a week) and buy energy efficient bulbs when our incandescent bulbs blow).



Yes, the media got bored with hyping it. You don't hear nearly as much about AIDS, yet it is *still* a deadly disease and infection rates are rising..



Prove Global Warming isn't happening..

I'll be happy to prove something once you prove this global warming theory?


And your happy to believe anything that is said also? Someone tells you The Dinosaurs came back. Do you believe them? I mean walking with dinosaurs BBC1? Thats on TV so they must be back! Scientists Draw Graphs On paper!! They must be true.. Works both ways In my Entire life I have seen Nothing Differ with Climate? No drastic Weather changes.. Some 1-off weather bursts in different countries but nothing to make me start smoking weed and hitting a bible, In Summer its hot.. In winter its cold!

Scientists Come up with the Global Warming theory and your happy to just sit back and Believe anything that is slapped on your plate! Correct?

Jumped on the bandwagon of worried and scared people and for what.. 50-100 years in the future Humanity is still standing where they look at Al Gore as an Adolf Hitler of our time..

Gordon Brown?
Al Gore
Bush! Riddle these lot with bullets..
Putin!


Sorry for my Humour

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

I'll be happy to prove something once you prove this global warming theory?


And your happy to believe anything that is said also? Someone tells you The Dinosaurs came back. Do you believe them? I mean walking with dinosaurs BBC1? Thats on TV so they must be back! Scientists Draw Graphs On paper!! They must be true.. Works both ways In my Entire life I have seen Nothing Differ with Climate? No drastic Weather changes.. Some 1-off weather bursts in different countries but nothing to make me start smoking weed and hitting a bible, In Summer its hot.. In winter its cold!

Nothing different with climate? How about record numbers of floods and at least two major droughts in the UK in the last 30 years?

Scientists Come up with the Global Warming theory and your happy to just sit back and Believe anything that is slapped on your plate! Correct?

No.. Not correct. You, however, appear willing to believe anything some random conspiracy theorist tells you ...

You see, I do something that you should maybe try. If I read an article that interests me, I'll try and find other sources for that information. The general idea being if you find the same info from several sources, it is more likely to be correct..

Jumped on the bandwagon of worried and scared people and for what.. 50-100 years in the future Humanity is still standing where they look at Al Gore as an Adolf Hitler of our time..

Gordon Brown?
Al Gore
Bush! Riddle these lot with bullets..
Putin!

You sure you aren't already smoking something?

[adzii_nufc]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

Nothing different with climate? How about record numbers of floods and at least two major droughts in the UK in the last 30 years?

No.. Not correct. You, however, appear willing to believe anything some random conspiracy theorist tells you ...


You sure you aren't already smoking something?

Conspiracy? Lol what.. Im going off my own opinion noone elses

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

The media told you that.. Also, what crap have you bought that you don't need? All our government have asked us to do (as consumers) is use cars less, switch things off at the mains (which would save you money compared to using standby mode), seperate out recyclable waste (which is maybe 10 minutes work a week) and buy energy efficient bulbs when our incandescent bulbs blow).

Not forgetting to flush the toilet less often and washing your clothes in cold water.

there's a book you can buy. it's called
1001 Ways You Can Save the Planet: Practical Ideas to Heal and Change the World
not printing the book in the first place would have been a contribution to healing the world.