'Muslim Plot' To Take Over Schools Investigated - Page 19

Russ · 05-05-2014, 06:33

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Head......meet sand. I'm sure you'll be very happy together.

Look I'll make it really easy for you.

People are saying that Muslims are "taking over".

I explain that's not the case as there are few if any Muslims around here.

That's about it really, unless common sense hasn't quite made it as far as Yorkshire yet.

Pierre · 05-05-2014, 06:58

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Originally Posted by Russ

Look I'll make it really easy for you.

People are saying that Muslims are "taking over".

I explain that's not the case as there are few if any Muslims around here.

That's about it really, unless common sense hasn't quite made it as far as Yorkshire yet.

That's great for you, wherever "here" is.

But your utopian experience is not shared by all, I take it the discussion is about the UK and not just about Russ's personal experience?

However around "here" there are lots of Muslims, so much so, that in large enclaves they are the majority not the minority.

So using my uncommonsensical head I can see in certain areas they're not taking over, they've taken over.

Or can't you get your daffodil head around the fact that people have a different perspective than yours?

Russ · 05-05-2014, 07:04

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Originally Posted by Pierre

That's great for you, wherever "here" is.

But your utopian experience is not shared by all, I take it the discussion is about the UK and not just about Russ's personal experience?

However around "here" there are lots of Muslims, so much so, that in large enclaves they are the majority not the minority.

So using my uncommonsensical head I can see in certain areas they're not taking over, they've taken over.

Or can't you get your daffodil head around the fact that people have a different perspective than yours?

I'm slightly embarrassed that I overestimated your ability to understand straightforward facts.

If Muslims are "taking over" the UK there would be a lot of them in all areas.
In many areas there are few if any Muslims.
Therefore...they are not "taking over" the country.

If you still don't get it then frankly you'll never understand.

Pierre · 05-05-2014, 07:30

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Originally Posted by Russ

I'm slightly embarrassed that I overestimated your ability to understand straightforward facts.

If Muslims are "taking over" the UK there would be a lot of them in all areas.
In many areas there are few if any Muslims.
Therefore...they are not "taking over" the country.

If you still don't get it then frankly you'll never understand.

I find it equally embarrassing for you, and quite puzzling for your inability to grasp the point I made.

I have already made clear this morning, that I do not believe Muslims are taking over the "UK" as a whole. Of course not.

My point was, and still is, if you have the mental capacity to see things from different perspectives, is that there are enclaves within many towns and cities where they are the majority, and where other races and faiths have been forced out, and for the people of those areas it seems very real that they have taken over, already.

This is very real, and is a big issue, and for places like parts of Birmingham where this issue began.

It drives fear and resentment.

Is that clear enough for you, have you had your weetabix yet?

Gary L · 05-05-2014, 07:45

I don't know how we've gotten onto the Muslims taking over the UK.

of course they're not. we won't let them.
but they are trying to. some of them would like to take over the UK.

they have taken over parts of the UK. by way of residency in those certain areas.
nobody can deny that.
but to base this whole debate on "No, they're not taking over the UK. End of" is silly.

**Hugh** · 05-05-2014, 07:50

You appear to be confusing 'living in' with 'taking over'.....

There are lots of Irish, and people of Irish descent, living in parts of Birmingham, Liverpool, London, Glasgow, Manchester, Luton, etc - we don't hear about concerns about them 'taking over'.....

Pierre · 05-05-2014, 07:55

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I don't know how we've gotten onto the Muslims taking over the UK.

of course they're not. we won't let them.
but they are trying to. some of them would like to take over the UK.

they have taken over parts of the UK. by way of residency in those certain areas.
nobody can deny that.
but to base this whole debate on "No, they're not taking over the UK. End of" is silly.

My god, I knew it would happen one day. A lucid sensible post by Gary.

Gary L · 05-05-2014, 08:00

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Originally Posted by Hugh

You appear to be confusing 'living in' with 'taking over'.....

See. this is what I mean.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

My god, I knew it would happen one day. A lucid sensible post by Gary.

Thanks, Pierre. I could see you were struggling. so I thought I'd better help him out

Pierre · 05-05-2014, 08:09

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Originally Posted by Hugh

You appear to be confusing 'living in' with 'taking over'.....

There are lots of Irish, and people of Irish descent, living in parts of Birmingham, Liverpool, London, Glasgow, Manchester, Luton, etc - we don't hear about concerns about them 'taking over'.....

That has to be the poorest example ever used on this forum to try and make point.

Laughable

Russ · 05-05-2014, 08:11

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Originally Posted by Pierre

I find it equally embarrassing for you, and quite puzzling for your inability to grasp the point I made.

I have already made clear this morning, that I do not believe Muslims are taking over the "UK" as a whole. Of course not.

My point was, and still is, if you have the mental capacity to see things from different perspectives, is that there are enclaves within many towns and cities where they are the majority, and where other races and faiths have been forced out, and for the people of those areas it seems very real that they have taken over, already.

This is very real, and is a big issue, and for places like parts of Birmingham where this issue began.

It drives fear and resentment.

Is that clear enough for you, have you had your weetabix yet?

I know you enjoy being deliberately argumentative sometimes but the whole "I just don't get it" thing, that's just a gimmick right? You've posted

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But your utopian experience is not shared by all, I take it the discussion is about the UK and not just about Russ's personal experience?

...when I was clearly talking about my own area.

Ha ha, joke over etc, you do understand that right?

Gary L · 05-05-2014, 08:13

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Originally Posted by Pierre

That has to be the poorest example ever used on this forum to try and make point.

Laughable

That's why I didn't reply to it.

Russ · 05-05-2014, 08:14

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Originally Posted by Hugh

You appear to be confusing 'living in' with 'taking over'.....

There are lots of Irish, and people of Irish descent, living in parts of Birmingham, Liverpool, London, Glasgow, Manchester, Luton, etc - we don't hear about concerns about them 'taking over'.....

That's because they're usually white and invariably speak the same language as us...

Gary L · 05-05-2014, 08:16

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Originally Posted by Russ

That's because they're usually white and invariably speak the same language as us...

Sometimes I think you say what you really mean. but have someone come along and say you were being sarcastic

Russ · 05-05-2014, 08:21

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Sometimes I think you say what you really mean. but have someone come along and say you were being sarcastic

There's no sarcasm in my post. I'm pretty certain the reason people have no issues with the Irish communities having been here for decades but have a hissy-fit with Muslim communities is because the latter are usually a different skin colour and often speak a different language.

Gary L · 05-05-2014, 08:25

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Originally Posted by Russ

There's no sarcasm in my post. I'm pretty certain the reason people have no issues with the Irish communities having been here for decades but have a hissy-fit with Muslim communities is because the latter are usually a different skin colour and often speak a different language.

So if you're being serious. then you have no problem with them yourself because they're white.
or are you leaving yourself out again. and telling us it's how everybody else thinks?

Or it might just be that they don't ask for things. they don't demand things. they don't want things to be done different ways. they don't get offended. they don't want to be different.