18-04-2010, 22:31
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
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So we are in violent agreement that GB agreed on Friday, rather than last week, and then DC agreed the next day..... 
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Which, depending on ones perspective, was last week. But I believe the inference was, it was some simultaneous decison. The interview I heard was more of a, "have you considered.....?" "I would welcome a chance.....I don't understand why Cameron hasn't...."
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18-04-2010, 23:03
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
Perhaps someone should have told Brown that we know praise doesn't buy equipment, or save lives
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19-04-2010, 05:18
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
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Perhaps someone should have told Brown that we know praise doesn't buy equipment, or save lives
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Sadly neither does Tory cuts..  I couldn't resist that one Xaccers.
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19-04-2010, 06:34
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
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Well i know it to be real, I have seen my lad buy equipment he needed for both tours he did in afghanistan. Some of the stories he has told me of lack of equipment and AMMO would shock you. Thankfully he has decided to leave the armed forces and one of the reason is lack of kit and support.
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19-04-2010, 07:59
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
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So we are in violent agreement that GB agreed on Friday, rather than last week, and then DC agreed the next day..... 
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Violent agreement..that's one I must remember.
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19-04-2010, 09:45
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
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Well i know it to be real, I have seen my lad buy equipment he needed for both tours he did in afghanistan. Some of the stories he has told me of lack of equipment and AMMO would shock you. Thankfully he has decided to leave the armed forces and one of the reason is lack of kit and support.
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No doubt you'll be passing on his and your own sincere thanks to Gordon Brown via your New Labour candidate...
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19-04-2010, 11:17
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
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Which, depending on ones perspective, was last week.
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Sorry Flyboy, I appreciate we don't see eye to eye on many things but this is ridiculous and looks, feels and sounds like political spin.
When speaking on a Sunday and referring to the previous Friday, two days before, one is talking about this week. Last week being the week prior to the current one.
Under commonly held wisdom and the official international standard ISO 8601 the week runs from Monday to Sunday, 'this week' is usually considered to be referring to the current period of Monday to Sunday and 'last week' the previous period.
An exception to this is when one uses a term such as 'In the last week' where speaking about time relatively rather than absolutely in which case the statement is taken to refer to the previous relative period of 7 days to the current day rather than an absolute week of Monday to Friday.
Your comment about 'perspective' is quite weak and reminds me pretty strongly of a politician. 'We weren't wrong, it's a matter of perspective...'
But of course you know all this.
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19-04-2010, 12:34
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
Thank you, Ignitionnet - you saved me a post, and put so much better than I could have.
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19-04-2010, 12:56
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
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Sadly neither does Tory cuts..  I couldn't resist that one Xaccers.
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It depends on the cuts, surely you can see that?
Cut spending in the right places and reallocate some of that saving to the armed forces.
So Tory cuts can save lives and buy equipment.
Where as, change where you give nothing but praise, and it still makes no difference.
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19-04-2010, 13:55
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
This is a nice letter.
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To draw an analogy, if the UK was a business, the shareholders would be asking serious questions. The current model appears to be that we can grow our business by growing overhead, by applying better terms and conditions to support functions than to wealth creators, and by paying dividends out of borrowings not all of which are recognised on the balance sheet.
We are also asked to believe that service levels will inevitably suffer if the costs of delivery are reduced. This need not be the case. As any business will confirm, service levels will reflect prioritisation, proper definition of desired outcomes, concentration on reducing waste and investment in productivity.
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19-04-2010, 14:25
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
It depends on the cuts, surely you can see that?
Cut spending in the right places and reallocate some of that saving to the armed forces.
So Tory cuts can save lives and buy equipment.
Where as, change where you give nothing but praise, and it still makes no difference.
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... and let's not forget who's ultimately responsible for the financial mess that's necessitating the cuts!
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19-04-2010, 14:32
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
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... and let's not forget who's ultimately responsible for the financial mess that's necessitating the cuts!
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Oh for the love of...Can we please avoid mentioning Thatcher again

* I know that it is of course not Thatchers fault before anyone starts
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19-04-2010, 16:59
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
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No doubt you'll be passing on his and your own sincere thanks to Gordon Brown via your New Labour candidate... 
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If the new labour candidate shows his face at my door i will let him know of that you can be assured.
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19-04-2010, 19:52
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
Something else that's obviously also Maggie's fault ... creating the impression that you can use a naval task force to persuade people to re-elect you. I don't think it will work for Gordon though. Still, I suppose imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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