*ALL* Speed Upgrade Discussion In Here Please

[Mauldor]

Originally Posted by monkeybreath

not much....

oh, apart from:
- writing new config files
Something they will have to do regardless
- added billing details to 3 databases
See Above
- supplying every 300k or 750k customer who wants to upgrade with a new set top box
Fair one on that, maybe only charge them?
- upgrading the network where this is needed
Once again, have to do it anyhooo if they wanna roll out new speeds.
- promotion of the new speeds
No more than the promotion they are already doing like sending Exsisting NTL customer adverts to get Broadband when in fact they already have it !!

[mmm]

Originally Posted by Nanook

My Swedish is not too good, but this looks )))))))FAST! http://www.bredbandsbolaget.se/se/index.jsp?t=2

It is good, straight Ethernet as far as I can work out like the trial in London?

Their upload is very good -as anyone who knows who manages to peer with a user on P2P!

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by ianathuth

It makes me laugh that the people who are complaining most about the imposition of caps and knocking NTL for restricting their usage are the ones that are looking for ways to reduce their contributions to NTLs coffers. If you want faster, unrestricted broadband you have to pay for it.

Just noticed something rather odd. My last post was my 1,999th making this my 2,000th but I am sure that I passed the 2,000 mark a few days ago. Odd.

Giving out advice, I am not looking for ways to cut my cost.

Business lite will be a £90 outlay for me and 2 year commitment but it is the service I want.
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Originally Posted by scastle

I think the point Paul is making is that the Cable Forum team has access to people quite high up within NTL (people who would know, or at least know someone who would) and these people have said there will be an admin fee.

The person you spoke to may have assumed you are a new customer (logical assumption - if you have a service, why approach a salesman?). If this is the case, then they are right. There is no admin fee for new users.

Interesting point, when they get this info do they point them to the feedback made or is it 1 way traffic of information?

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

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Interesting point, when they get this info do they point them to the feedback made or is it 1 way traffic of information?

That is something you'd need to ask the mods. I don't know.

[mcmanic]

Originally Posted by scastle

I think the point Paul is making is that the Cable Forum team has access to people quite high up within NTL (people who would know, or at least know someone who would) and these people have said there will be an admin fee.

The person you spoke to may have assumed you are a new customer (logical assumption - if you have a service, why approach a salesman?). If this is the case, then they are right. There is no admin fee for new users.

not always the case.
I have good friends at NTL,my wife worked there for 10 years, i've no need to ring anybody up as they are personal friends who still work in different areas of NTL.

There is no upgrade fee and no BB caps when it starts - in March

[zitianaki]

http://www.accelerate.net.uk/product...alproducts.php

now that is a connection worth buying 3MB sdsl for £49.99 a month imagine that a 3MB upload no cap either just a shame its scotland only

if enough people in your area want it they will provide by the sounds of things.

this makes even ukonline look bad in my eyes

[bigitup_j]

all the caps, prices and tiers have all been confirmed. look at ntl's latest presentation:
http://www.ntl.com/locales/gb/en/inv...stor-press.pdf

it shows 4 tiers of broadband
300k for £15.99
1mb (5gb cap) for £17.99
2mb (30gb cap) for £24.99
3mb (40gb cap) for £37.99

300k will be retained, as an entry level package (see page 9) and apparently there will be no cap on the 300k service.
i may simply downgrade to 300k (instead of migrating to the 1mb tier), no cap, and cheaper - yay

and i'm sure ntl won't mind, as i won't be downloading at 1mb, only 300k - less stress on the network

[jtwn]

Thanks for that bigitupj

That accelerate bb is amazing...forget about moving to sweden, im going to Scotland!!!

edit: it says, bb upgrades before vod launch...so its coming soon as in, really, coming soon?

[Hans Gruber]

Originally Posted by bigitup_j

all the caps, prices and tiers have all been confirmed. look at ntl's latest presentation:
http://www.ntl.com/locales/gb/en/inv...stor-press.pdf

it shows 4 tiers of broadband
300k for £15.99
1mb (5gb cap) for £17.99
2mb (30gb cap) for £24.99
3mb (40gb cap) for £37.99

300k will be retained, as an entry level package (see page 9) and apparently there will be no cap on the 300k service.
i may simply downgrade to 300k (instead of migrating to the 1mb tier), no cap, and cheaper - yay

and i'm sure ntl won't mind, as i won't be downloading at 1mb, only 300k - less stress on the network

Looking at that press release (page 15) it looks as though "metered broadband" will come after "BB spead increases". So will there be a while with no caps?

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by mcmanic

not always the case.
I have good friends at NTL,my wife worked there for 10 years, i've no need to ring anybody up as they are personal friends who still work in different areas of NTL.

There is no upgrade fee and no BB caps when it starts - in March

But why announce the caps then? I do believe that Simon Duffy talked about them..

I would like to believe you, but what you say does not tally with what Cableforum has published (and in the past, I have found the news items at Cableforum to be quite accurate), or what NTL announced to their investors. http://www.ntl.com/locales/gb/en/inv...stor-press.pdf (page 33)

Are you saying NTL have lied to their investors (an action which may well persuade said investors to pull out as if they lie about something like this, what else are they lying about)?

[dragon]

Originally Posted by mcmanic

not always the case.
I have good friends at NTL,my wife worked there for 10 years, i've no need to ring anybody up as they are personal friends who still work in different areas of NTL.

There is no upgrade fee and no BB caps when it starts - in March

not madly worried about the caps but i hope upgrades are free

[mcmanic]

well we all know about the 1gig per day cap thats in place now but not strictly enforced, this will be exactly the same, its listed but not enforced.

Basically to frighten the heavy downloaders away, like what they did with the scare mongering of the 1gig cap

[Rone]

Originally Posted by mcmanic

well we all know about the 1gig per day cap thats in place now but not strictly enforced, this will be exactly the same, its listed but not enforced.

Basically to frighten the heavy downloaders away, like what they did with the scare mongering of the 1gig cap

Any guarantee or evidence to support that?
What i've read elsewhere seems to contradict this.

And as soon as they find out its not enforced, they all come back, so why scare them?

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by mcmanic

well we all know about the 1gig per day cap thats in place now but not strictly enforced, this will be exactly the same, its listed but not enforced.

Basically to frighten the heavy downloaders away, like what they did with the scare mongering of the 1gig cap

Don't forget that the vast majority of NTL customers know nothing at all about the proposed new speeds and caps. They have never notified customers about them, only those visiting sites such as this will have heard of them.

I have faith in what the team report on the subject as they are usually spot on. The £25 upgrade figure is the only thing that they may have second thoughts on, but I doubt it. I am in no doubt that the caps will come and they will be enforced one way or another. We will have to wait and see how they are enforced.

Perhaps you are using ADSL and want to give the heavy users the idea that there will be no hard caps so that they won't switch to ADSL and threaten your use.

[garyparson]

Originally Posted by monkeybreath

not much....

oh, apart from:
- writing new config files
- added billing details to 3 databases
- supplying every 300k or 750k customer who wants to upgrade with a new set top box
- upgrading the network where this is needed
- promotion of the new speeds

Can't be that big of a deal if new customers don't have to pay it