Will Scotland Leave the UK?

908 isn't a brilliant sample size. However, of somewhat greater concern are the other questions on the poll, which you could argue helped make the subjects more receptive to saying 'yes' to the main question.

Also, with anyone able to join Panelbase, I wonder how far in advance the SNP decided to make use of their services and how many SNP activists joined Panelbase before the poll was conducted. Even if Panelbase drew a random sample of its Scottish members, there is ample opportunity for the SNP to stack the sample in their favour.

[Osem]

What I want to know is whether our Scottish Mods will still be able to exercise their powers south of the Border if Salmond's Tartan Twits get their way?...

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Osem

What I want to know is whether our Scottish Mods will still be able to exercise their powers south of the Border if Salmond's Tartan Twits get their way?...

Just another reason to vote for independence of they can't

Five minutes before the SNP's separatist agenda is due to be published, the official website goes mammaries skywards:

Error establishing a database connection

http://www.scotreferendum.com/

If they can't even manage a website at a period of entirely predictable demand, how in the blue blazes are they to be trusted to run a country?

[techguyone]

I only hope that, whatever the outcome, then that's it. assuming it's a No vote, we don't get to do this again, next year or in 5 years ad infinitum until Salmond gets what he wants. Is there any kind of framework there to stop that?

There's also the possibility of gaining power by stages, with unending concessions until Scotland ends up self governing anyway, is that a likely possibility?

[Arthurgray50@blu]

http://news.sky.com/story/1173661/sc...ildcare-pledge

After watching this item, it has been said that any Scot no matter where they live - Except for the UK. Can vote for the referendum.

Why are the Scots in the England being excluded.

[Wad_2002]

Seems to me some people have a personal agenda against Salmond. Im sure someone questioned Salmond's personal agenda against Westminster?

They were talking about citizenship Arthur, not who gets to vote in the referendum. The referendum is restricted to people who are on the electoral roll in Scotland.

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Originally Posted by Wad_2002

Seems to me some people have a personal agenda against Salmond. Im sure someone questioned Salmond's personal agenda against Westminster?

Considering Salmond is attempting to dismantle the nation state we were born into and have known all our lives, I think we're entitled to take it personally.

[Wad_2002]

Originally Posted by Chris

They were talking about citizenship Arthur, not who gets to vote in the referendum. The referendum is restricted to people who are on the electoral roll in Scotland.

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Considering Salmond is attempting to dismantle the nation state we were born into and have known all our lives, I think we're entitled to take it personally.

Sorry, but I think you take it too personally.

SNP are putting a question to the scottish folks. Today they released the document to hopefully answer most questions.

It will be then upto the the people registered to vote in Scotland to make the descion. Salmond/Nicola have said for a very long time that we can do things better ourselves. This has been the main base point of Salmond's argument for years.

Sorry, but I don't see whats changed on this??

Edit...after going back some pages on this thread after typing my post. Some people has some mis-guided views on what the SNP represent. The last 6 months before the vote in 2014 are the most important months, taking into account the white paper being released TODAY. I think you will find the voter % will change sharply.

If we talk about assests and finances - I will certainlly say, we have less than 10% of the UK population, we pay more that our 10% in tax pro-rata. We have more or less 90% (please google search it!) of oil reserves where the VAST majoirty does not come back to Scotland. Really, do you need me to do the maths???

No campagin/alistair darling...sorry but if you going to take jibes at big Eck...then I would seriously recommend that you do some homework on AD and find out of how much of a failed politican this guy really is.

I am still waiting on David Cameron's 670 page document of why we shoud stay. I assume we will get a 4 page double sided leaflet through the door with nice bright colours in due course.

Whilst I fully acknoeldge that running no government can be easy, the UK government has done nothing for over a decade to reduce the poverty gap within the UK, making families go to the brink of collapse.

Someone famous once said, decades ago, that the Scotland would never have its own Parliament!

[Stephen]

My choice is currently NO and will not be changing. There is nothing Salmond can say to convince me otherwise. Its a bad idea and they haven't yet afaik got all the answers that everyone wants/needs.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Wad_2002

Sorry, but I think you take it too personally.

SNP are putting a question to the scottish folks. Today they released the document to hopefully answer most questions.

It will be then upto the the people registered to vote in Scotland to make the descion. Salmond/Nicola have said for a very long time that we can do things better ourselves. This has been the main base point of Salmond's argument for years.

Sorry, but I don't see whats changed on this??

Edit...after going back some pages on this thread after typing my post. Some people has some mis-guided views on what the SNP represent. The last 6 months before the vote in 2014 are the most important months, taking into account the white paper being released TODAY. I think you will find the voter % will change sharply.

If we talk about assests and finances - I will certainlly say, we have less than 10% of the UK population, we pay more that our 10% in tax pro-rata. We have more or less 90% (please google search it!) of oil reserves where the VAST majoirty does not come back to Scotland. Really, do you need me to do the maths???

No campagin/alistair darling...sorry but if you going to take jibes at big Eck...then I would seriously recommend that you do some homework on AD and find out of how much of a failed politican this guy really is.

I am still waiting on David Cameron's 670 page document of why we shoud stay. I assume we will get a 4 page double sided leaflet through the door with nice bright colours in due course.

Whilst I fully acknoeldge that running no government can be easy, the UK government has done nothing for over a decade to reduce the poverty gap within the UK, making families go to the brink of collapse.

Someone famous once said, decades ago, that the Scotland would never have its own Parliament!

Great points, you've got my vote, plus you didn't even include that every Scot will be six hundred pounds a year richer.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

'the UK government has done nothing for over a decade to reduce the poverty gap within the UK, making families go to the brink of collapse.'

I could not agree with this more. Whatever government is in power ALL MPs think only of them self.

Each day when l go through Hounslow, l see all the despartion of people looking for work, more and more of these community sectors opening up asking for donations of food to be given to those that are on extremely lowe wages and seeking help or the victims of the dreaded bedroom tax.

We have a Labour leader that is so limp that does not have the guts to take on Cameron and give him Hell like any other Labour leader, who looks after the working class.

And yet, we have a Prime Minister who WON'T give the voter the chance to vote on Euope, and yet spend billions of pounds of OUR money, on aid on other countries - some that don't need it. Whilst his own people beg, steal or borrow to survive.

We know why Cameron won't intefere with the Scottish people - he wont win. The Scots cannot stand the Tory party.

My wife is Scottish and is very proud of it.

[nashville]

I am very proud to be Scottish. But I believe we all need to stick together as one UK. I don't like the Tory Party as they have more bad points than good. But it is not between Tory and SNP only. Labour voters will remember this too. We were in Bulgaria on holiday and they wanted to give us less money for our Scottish bank notes than the English ones. So cannot trust Salmon to keep the pound. A YES vote it too risky,

AN independent Scotland will have a spa bath, state-of-the-art multi-room audio and an ‘intelligent fridge’.

Setting out its blueprint for independence, the Scottish National Party said the country would be ‘fully-loaded’ with the sort of optional extras that will make England ‘question its life choices’.

First Minister Alex Salmond said: “I had my first Jacuzzi last year. It was fantastic and I thought ‘if we are going to do independence properly we are definitely going to need one of these’.

“It was so bubbly and warm. Honest to God, I literally had to be dragged out of it.
“Four big guys – half an hour. I was clinging to the handles.”

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/i...-2013112681467



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Originally Posted by nashville

I am very proud to be Scottish. But I believe we all need to stick together as one UK. I don't like the Tory Party as they have more bad points than good. But it is not between Tory and SNP only. Labour voters will remember this too. We were in Bulgaria on holiday and they wanted to give us less money for our Scottish bank notes than the English ones. So cannot trust Salmon to keep the pound. A YES vote it too risky,

Well said.

There are proud Scots of my acquaintance who will leave Scotland rather than live in the navel-gazing nirvana Fat Alec has planned.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by techguyone

I only hope that, whatever the outcome, then that's it. assuming it's a No vote, we don't get to do this again, next year or in 5 years ad infinitum until Salmond gets what he wants. Is there any kind of framework there to stop that?
There's also the possibility of gaining power by stages, with unending concessions until Scotland ends up self governing anyway, is that a likely possibility?

Well Salmond seems to believe in the EU so presumably he'll keep asking until the electorate give the 'right' answer...