U.S President: Donald Trump

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Whatever. Can we get back to the point of the thread? I don't recall it having anything to do with religion.

Wrong side of the bed again Pip, it must be a big drop.

[richard s]

The human race... especially the so-called leaders and governments of our little blue planet .... so dumb.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by richard s

The human race... especially the so-called leaders and governments of our little blue planet .... so dumb.

I'm afraid that this point won't go far in the debate stakes as we'll all agree with you.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I'm afraid that this point won't go far in the debate stakes as we'll all agree with you.

So you and Richard think a 1995 Law passed by Congress should be ignored then ?

So things we have learned about you so far, is that you're anti-democratic and that you think it's now ok to abandon legislation signed in to law ?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

So you and Richard think a 1995 Law passed by Congress should be ignored then ?

So things we have learned about you so far, is that you're anti-democratic and that you think it's now ok to abandon legislation signed in to law ?

I've not mentioned anything about ignoring a law. And wanting Brexit not to happen is not undemocratic it's just sensible given the impossibility of having an open border with Ireland but not following the EU's standards in Northern Ireland. But that's another debate.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I've not mentioned anything about ignoring a law. And wanting Brexit not to happen is not undemocratic it's just sensible given the impossibility of having an open border with Ireland but not following the EU's standards in Northern Ireland. But that's another debate.

The solution is not impossible, so yes it is undemocratic to wanting a democratic decision stopped. You have been wanting the decision overturned, long before the Ireland issue cropped up.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

The solution is not impossible, so yes it is undemocratic to wanting a democratic decision stopped. You have been wanting the decision overturned, long before the Ireland issue cropped up.

The Ireland issue has always been there.

Yet again, Democrat Al Green introduces two Articles of Impeachment against Trump and this time forces a vote in the House of Representatives, who have tonight, overwhelmingly rejected the resolutions. Voting 364 Against and 58 For to move forward. The 58 were all Democrats.

BREAKING: House Judiciary Committee have urgently convened a hearing with Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein to discuss the concerns regarding Special Counsel Robert Meuller’s investigations in to Russian interference in last years U.S Election.

The Chairman of the Committee raises the following concerns:

Chairman Goodlatte: “I am very troubled by the recent controversy surrounding staff assigned to the special counsel’s investigation into Russian interference in last year’s presidential election. For example, one investigator allegedly has been removed from the special counsel’s team for sending anti-Trump texts. He is also believed to have played a key role in the Clinton investigation, which allowed her and her associates to go unpunished for their use of a private email server to send and receive classified information. Another prosecutor, who remains on the special counsel’s team, has expressed views opposing President Trump’s agenda.

“Next week, Members of the House Judiciary Committee will have the opportunity to ask Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein about these developments since he is tasked with overseeing the special counsel’s investigation. We look forward to hearing from Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein on the many issues facing the Justice Department and on answers to the many questions Members have regarding issues before the Department.”

The hearing is scheduled for next Wednesday at 10AM D.C time. Hearing is public.

Originally Posted by Mick

Yet again, Democrat Al Green introduces two Articles of Impeachment against Trump and this time forces a vote in the House of Representatives, who have tonight, overwhelmingly rejected the resolutions. Voting 364 Against and 58 For to move forward. The 58 were all Democrats.

Which was obvious at the time. Bills get introduced to the House every day many of which never get to the floor. People get too bothered about specific bills.

Originally Posted by Mick

BREAKING: House Judiciary Committee have urgently convened a hearing with Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein to discuss the concerns regarding Special Counsel Robert Meuller’s investigations in to Russian interference in last years U.S Election.

The Chairman of the Committee raises the following concerns:



The hearing is scheduled for next Wednesday at 10AM D.C time. Hearing is public.

Can't see that doing much. A guy was fired by Meuller for spending the texts as a result of Meuller's own due diligence. Sounds like he is behaving how someone leading an investigation should.

Originally Posted by Damien

Which was obvious at the time. Bills get introduced to the House every day many of which never get to the floor. People get too bothered about specific bills.

Yes but this is different. Articles have been created before, this is the first time a vote has been forced on the House floor.

Originally Posted by Damien

Can't see that doing much. A guy was fired by Meuller for spending the texts as a result of Meuller's own due diligence. Sounds like he is behaving how someone leading an investigation should.

Not just a few texts, 10,000 texts are being examined.

There is significant credibility issues, that’s the reason for the hearing being convened. Mueller kept the information from the Congressional Investigation Committee about the FBI agent who he fired, for months.

As it stands, this FBI investigator, Peter Strzok, who was heavily and politically biased towards Hillary Clinton. Changed the wording of the final language used by former Director James Comey, in her investigation from ‘grossly negligent’ to ‘extremely careless’ and that’s significant because the initial categorisation, carries criminal ramifications.

He also Interviewed Flynn, before he was fired from the Russia probe.

So yes, he was fired, but not before he played key roles in various investigations and that information withheld from Congressional Investigators, until now.

In other news, Democratic Senator, Al Franken is due to announce today, he is resigning, after more revelations of his sexual misconduct towards women.

Originally Posted by Mick

Yes but this is different. Articles have been created before, this is the first time a vote has been forced on the House floor.

Even so though it was a bill destined to fail. I am surprised it got as far as a vote.

As it stands, this FBI investigator, Peter Strzok, who was heavily and politically biased towards Hillary Clinton. Changed the wording of the final language used by former Director James Comey, in her investigation from ‘grossly negligent’ to ‘extremely careless’ and that’s significant because the initial categorisation, carries criminal ramifications.

It's bad for the agent in question and maybe the Clinton probe, I've not looked into the actual detail, but from I've seen the Meuller investigation will largely be ok. Unless it gives Trump the pretense to fire him.

In other news, Democratic Senator, Al Franken is due to announce today, he is resigning, after more revelations of his sexual misconduct towards women.

Good.

Originally Posted by Damien

Even so though it was a bill destined to fail. I am surprised it got as far as a vote.

I don’t think you understand?

Democrat, Al Green forced the vote to the floor on his own, despite many in his own party recommending him not to.

Originally Posted by Mick

I don’t think you understand?

Democrat, Al Green forced the vote to the floor on his own, despite many in his own party recommending him not to.

I understand? As I said it was never going to get anywhere?

You was saying it should not have got as far as a vote, but the House had no choice, Al Green was forcing the vote.