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Old 26-05-2019, 20:41   #2716
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Re: Brexit

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I hope the breixit traitor party AKA lim dem doesn't do well.

I found it highly offensive to their "Bollocks to Brexit"

So much so that the leader should be strip of his knighthood.
Bit over the top.
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Old 26-05-2019, 20:42   #2717
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Re: Brexit

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I hope the breixit traitor party AKA lim dem doesn't do well.

I found it highly offensive to their "Bollocks to Brexit"

So much so that the leader should be strip of his knighthood.
Less of the word traitor Hom3r as no one is a traitor whoever they cast their vote for.
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Old 26-05-2019, 21:13   #2718
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Less of the word traitor Hom3r as no one is a traitor whoever they cast their vote for.
He wasn’t having a go at the voters, mainly the parties. I happen to agree with Hom3r. We have a party called Liberal Democrat’s but they’re being anything but Democratic with their immature profanity laden slogan, wanting to over turn one of the largest Democratic process in modern British history.
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Old 26-05-2019, 21:24   #2719
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He wasn’t having a go at the voters, mainly the parties. I happen to agree with Hom3r. We have a party called Liberal Democrat’s but they’re being anything but Democratic with their immature profanity laden slogan, wanting to over turn one of the largest Democratic process in modern British history.
If they are being attacked must mean the LDs have done well at the expense of other parties
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Old 26-05-2019, 21:35   #2720
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If they are being attacked must mean the LDs have done well at the expense of other parties
I think everyone would agree the LD's will be the party of choice for remainers.
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Old 26-05-2019, 21:40   #2721
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He wasn’t having a go at the voters, mainly the parties. I happen to agree with Hom3r. We have a party called Liberal Democrat’s but they’re being anything but Democratic with their immature profanity laden slogan, wanting to over turn one of the largest Democratic process in modern British history.
The Liberal Democrats and their voters are entitled to use the democratic system to register protest and seek to influence previous democratic decisions. The idea that they are traitors and the leader of the party should be stripped of a Knighthood for standing on an electoral platform you disagree with is hardly democratic is it?
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Old 26-05-2019, 21:47   #2722
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Re: Brexit

On the Brexit front, the key election result is surely that for the next Prime Minister. If Theresa May was not leaving next month, the European results might have had more of an impact but events have overtaken them.
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Old 26-05-2019, 21:52   #2723
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Re: Brexit

Any surprise result might influence things.

Labour getting decimated by Brexit voters in Leave seats might make them even more wary of any referendum whereas Liberal Democrat surges in Tory seats might make them more wary of No Deal.

I mean how would Boris react to the Lib Dems doing well in Uxbridge for example?
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Re: Brexit

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So its OK for New Labour to privatise part of the NHS but not anyone else?

Why should any US deal include privatisation of the NHS? It may be something the US wants but will not necessarily get.
Moving from conflating two issues to putting words in my mouth! Nice.
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Old 26-05-2019, 22:22   #2725
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Re: Brexit

Looking like a great night so far for Brexit Party and the Liberal Democrats.
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Old 26-05-2019, 22:30   #2726
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Looking like a great night so far for Brexit Party and the Liberal Democrats.
And the Green Party too.

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Any surprise result might influence things.

Labour getting decimated by Brexit voters in Leave seats might make them even more wary of any referendum whereas Liberal Democrat surges in Tory seats might make them more wary of No Deal.

I mean how would Boris react to the Lib Dems doing well in Uxbridge for example?
Fair points.
Labour look set to be squeezed in both Leave and Remain areas.
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The Liberal Democrats and their voters are entitled to use the democratic system to register protest and seek to influence previous democratic decisions. The idea that they are traitors and the leader of the party should be stripped of a Knighthood for standing on an electoral platform you disagree with is hardly democratic is it?
Democratic decisions that have not yet been bloody implemented.
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Old 26-05-2019, 22:32   #2728
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Democratic decisions that have not yet been bloody implemented.
Well that's why the Brexit Party is doing so well but it's still the democratic right for the Liberals to stand against it.
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Re: Brexit

But there isn't a right to block and/or frustrate a democratic decision.


Would be interesting to do an analysis of the final figures and see how much better the Brexit party figures would be if UKIP had disbanded or not stood. An extra 3/4% might have made a big difference in the number of seats won.
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Old 26-05-2019, 23:00   #2730
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Re: Brexit

East of England results:

Brexit Party 604,715
Liberal Democrats 361,563
Green 202,460
Labour 139,490
Tory 163,830
Change UK 58,274
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