BNP loses seats

Originally Posted by aliferste

Please see post 255!

Phew you must be on your last braincell now. Keeping it to a min with the qwerty keyboard hey.

This is the kind of ****e aliferste amd his mates think is okay,

Asylum cheats make me mad

ONE OF the questions on the Big Brother application form was, “What makes you really angry”?
I said, “Bogus asylum seekers who take advantage of the system”.
Having read the latest statistics from Migrationwatch UK, I stand by that.
Would you believe the number of failed asylum seekers who later win appeals to stay in Britain rose from 1200 in 1996 to 14,000 last year?
Remember, these people have already failed to convince the immigration authorities they were genuine cases. Can you comprehend that Britain now takes 23 per cent of all economic migrants entering the EU?
£1.8 billion
Does it stun you to discover that just to process all the asylum applications costs British taxpayers £1.8 billion every single year?
These figures left me speechless. Well, almost.
It proves what I’ve suspected all along. Our asylum system is in disarray and it’s turning the country into a laughing stock.
Every other week I seem to read about the huge debt the average Brit is in, or the hundreds of thousands of Scottish children who are still living in absolute poverty.
In this day and age that’s an absolute disgrace.
Yet week after week, month after month, we welcome thousands of people into this country, then offer them a small share of the wealth we quite clearly do not have. We’re a soft touch and I’m fed-up with it.
If you disagree then tell me why countless numbers of refugees risk their lives in the back of lorries to get into Britain? Why don’t they get off in Germany, France or Italy?
Easy target
It’s because Britain is an easy target and they know it.
Call me a right-winger if you want — I don’t believe I am. But then, in the last few months I’ve been called everything from a homophobic to a misogynist, so it’s like water off a duck’s back to me now. What I am saying is something must be done.
While Britain’s doors may not be fully open, they’re clearly left ajar and this is evidently encouraging people who are not genuinely in need of our help to try to get into our country.
The Government claim immigrants enhance our lives with their diversity of culture, yet many of them choose not to integrate and all that does is breed racism and distrust.
They argue that allowing more in will benefit our economy. That’s all very well, but will the extra contributions they make to the Exchequer be invested into our already over-stretched schools, hospitals and roads?
Shortage
Come to think of it, where will they live? Isn’t there a drastic shortage of housing in Britain?
We’re told falling population rates need to be urgently reversed and that economic migrants are the answer, but what’s the point in letting people in who can contribute nothing in terms of skills? All that will do is drain our country of its already scant resources.
For goodness sake, we must do everything we can to assist those who genuinely need our help. But we must also change our policy to ensure those who aren’t genuine never arrive here in the first place.
There’s been talk of following the lead of the Australians and holding asylum seekers on foreign islands whilst their applications are being processed. I couldn’t agree more.
Vast numbers
Firstly, it will dissuade such vast numbers from trying to get into Britain which, in turn, will reduce the time it takes to process genuine applications. Secondly, it means those waiting won’t be able to escape and disappear into the background.
I don’t know a single soul who doesn’t think this country has a part to play in helping the needy. By the same token, I haven’t come across anyone who believes we should give hand-outs to the greedy.
Yes, each case must be considered on its merits and, yes, we all have sympathy for folk worse off than ourselves.
But sympathy without sense is hopeless

http://www.sundaypost.com/news5.htm

Take a note of this part,

£1.8 billion
Does it stun you to discover that just to process all the asylum applications costs British taxpayers £1.8 billion every single year?

[aliferste]

Originally Posted by Defiant

And lucky I'm not retarded like you.

I work with people with learning difficulties as well


Just shows what kind of person you are that says that as an insult!


YAWN!!

Ill read over the rest of your tripe in the morning

night night! sleep tight

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Defiant

I know why I'll be voting for them and thats to stop the flood of scrounger's taking money which should be going on Schools,NHS,OAP's etc

The racist views that people feel the BNP have aside, why not vote Tory instead?
They've got a better record of actually doing things once elected.
They also have the plan to put asylum seekers in an off shore centre so that they can't dissapear, their costs are controlled, it saves money which can be pumped back into public services, and if found to be illegal, they will be deported to their original country, and those genuine asylum seekers will be allowed in with the ability to work and pay taxes just like anyone turning 18 who was born in this country, and if I remember correctly should the situation in their home country become safe within a short period they will be returned home.
They Tories are also the ones who managed to get an agreement with the french to return people who snuck in through the ports (an agreement which labour tore up),

Originally Posted by aliferste

I work with people with learning difficulties as well


Just shows what kind of person you are that says that as an insult!


YAWN!!

Ill read over the rest of your tripe in the morning

night night! sleep tight

You work with them !

[Russ]

People - I'm not all that impressed with some of the insults being thrown around in this thread.

This subject is always going to stir up emotions but everyone is permitted to hold an opinion without being verbally attacked for it.

[aliferste]

Originally Posted by Defiant

You work with them !

Yes. There has to be some "do gooders" that do this

[aliferste]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

They also have the plan to put asylum seekers in an off shore centre so that they can't dissapear, their costs are controlled, it saves money which can be pumped back into public services,

Actually, this is hilarous as noone in the Tory party even know where this off shore centre actually is or even where it could be.


What is needed is through better education as to the reasons why people seek asylum ........and then in areas where the asylum seekers are placed for there to be good integration programs so that people in the "vaults" are actually informed about what they say.......and then passionate people about the subject like Defiant get more angry about the way that asylum seekers are treated and make a differance.



And then of course vile people like the BNP would not stand a chance as Defiant would be there telling them they are talking rubbish.

But who knows when that will happen

[aliferste]

And that Cameron Stout bloke does ot have a clue what he is talking about......."or the hundreds of thousands of Scottish children who are still living in absolute poverty"
People in the UK will never live in "absolute poverty" !

Originally Posted by aliferste

Actually, this is hilarous as noone in the Tory party even know where this off shore centre actually is or even where it could be.


What is needed is through better education as to the reasons why people seek asylum ........and then in areas where the asylum seekers are placed for there to be good integration programs so that people in the "vaults" are actually informed about what they say.......and then passionate people about the subject like Defiant get more angry about the way that asylum seekers are treated and make a differance.



And then of course vile people like the BNP would not stand a chance as Defiant would be there telling them they are talking rubbish.

But who knows when that will happen

Putting do gooders all on the same island and letting them give there advice to each other now that would be good. How long before the first murder their I wonder. No matter what anyone tells you your views are not going to change and its your views that are helping to create racists and votes for BNP.

Congratulations.


Christ when you get people like,


http://www.sundaypost.com/news5.htm

That wouldn't say boo to a goose well that says it all. You really don't know just how ****ed of the general public really are. You’re really living in cloud cuckoo land

Originally Posted by aliferste

And that Cameron Stout bloke does ot have a clue what he is talking about......."or the hundreds of thousands of Scottish children who are still living in absolute poverty"
People in the UK will never live in "absolute poverty" !

And you do Einstein don’t you. The braincell works overtime with you doesn’t it NOT.

You wont be happy till the whole country is flooded. The economy has gone. Over crowding is everywhere, The NHS has crashed and there’s no more money to be handed out to your friends :rolleyes.

Last but not least theirs riots all over the country

People in the UK will never live in "absolute poverty"

Wrong their are peope in cardboard boxe's. Something else that prove's your not in the real world

[aliferste]

Originally Posted by Defiant

Wrong their are peope in cardboard boxe's. Something else that prove's your not in the real world

Go and look up what "absolute" and "relative" poverty mean please!!


Defiant...you are like a little school boy in the playground ......your comments are increasingly troll like and it would actually be a pleasure debating with you , even with the odd insulting comment, if you actually did a little reading in the subject ....

However, you refuse to even move an inch from your stance and throw about idiotic statements about me being a "do gooder" Whatever the hell that is??

If a "do gooder" is someone that is concerned by people in distress ...no matter who and will do anything to alleviate this...then so be it!!

[aliferste]

Originally Posted by Defiant

Something else that prove's your not in the real world

At least i know what im talking about........I work with people in that situation........not in the real world indeed

[Russ]

Ok for the second time this morning I'm stepping in here. Leave out the insults please or I'll lock the thread for 15 minutes to let people cool down.

Originally Posted by aliferste

Go and look up what "absolute" and "relative" poverty mean please!!


Defiant...you are like a little school boy in the playground ......your comments are increasingly troll like and it would actually be a pleasure debating with you , even with the odd insulting comment, if you actually did a little reading in the subject ....

However, you refuse to even move an inch from your stance and throw about idiotic statements about me being a "do gooder" Whatever the hell that is??

If a "do gooder" is someone that is concerned by people in distress ...no matter who and will do anything to alleviate this...then so be it!!

GO then GO and help them out. Why the hell should everyone else over here have to. If you think everyone should have to keep putting up with this just because its something YOU agree with then your wrong. Get a one way ticket and help as many as possible cya

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Defiant

Phew you must be on your last braincell now. Keeping it to a min with the qwerty keyboard hey.

This is the kind of ****e aliferste amd his mates think is okay,

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http://www.sundaypost.com/news5.htm

Take a note of this part,

How much would the extra security cost? Bear in mind that we would probably have to process the same number of inquiries, so the processing cost would be similar.

Apart from that, I would class what Cameron says as opinion, not necessarily fact.

One last thing. You say you want to get rid of all the do gooders along with the refugees (or scroungers as you call them), because if you don't, then the NHS and the Economy will crash.

Do you think there would even be an NHS without do gooders?I don't.