Uk Riots and Protests (2024)
08-08-2024, 09:53
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Re: Uk Riots and Protests (2024)
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At least he’s holding his hands up.
Has the Labour backbench MP that named her local Holiday Inn as housing asylum seekers apologised for her statement that undoubtedly fuelled the flames of local resentment?
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08-08-2024, 09:55
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Re: Uk Riots and Protests (2024)
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Great interview of a politicion addmitting he got it wrong,how rare is that
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08-08-2024, 10:01
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Re: Uk Riots and Protests (2024)
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Great interview of a politicion addmitting he got it wrong,how rare is that 
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To answer my own question above - she condemned it (don’t we all, love) without acknowledging her own dog whistle to the masses.
The hypocrisy is off the scales.
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08-08-2024, 10:08
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Re: Uk Riots and Protests (2024)
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Great interview of a politicion addmitting he got it wrong,how rare is that 
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Where does he say he got it wrong?
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08-08-2024, 10:10
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Re: Uk Riots and Protests (2024)
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That old guy is shocking. So racist and so dumb that he doesn't realise it or can't admit it.
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08-08-2024, 11:17
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Re: Uk Riots and Protests (2024)
Elon Musk just retweeted a British First account promoting a fake Telegraph headline that Starmer is setting up detention camps. He then deleted it but he is really is going all on this.
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08-08-2024, 11:32
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Re: Uk Riots and Protests (2024)
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Elon Musk just retweeted a British First account promoting a fake Telegraph headline that Starmer is setting up detention camps. He then deleted it but he is really is going all on this.
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Detention camps for who?
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08-08-2024, 11:41
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Re: Uk Riots and Protests (2024)
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Elon Musk just retweeted a British First account promoting a fake Telegraph headline that Starmer is setting up detention camps. He then deleted it but he is really is going all on this.
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In fairness to Elon. If he was wanting to weaponise his platform to influence, and radicalise, people at a wider scale Britain is absolutely ripe for it. The Johnson, Sunak, Starmer and Farages of this world have all laid the ground work with their relentless messaging to demonise migrants.
All he’s doing is testing flipping the medium from The Sun, the Daily Mail and Telegraphs of the mainstream press. If he was able to usurp the undue influence of the written and broadcast press in the UK it’d give him disproportionate influence over policy making for decades to come as we’ve seen with Murdoch, the Barclay brothers, Lord Lebedev.
Make it work here - where next? Australia, New Zealand, the USA.
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08-08-2024, 11:53
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Re: Uk Riots and Protests (2024)
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Detention camps for who?
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The far-right rioters arrested over the last week
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08-08-2024, 11:54
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Sorry but saying there are too many immigrants or illegal immigrants is not demonising them. If people are coming to that conclusion, then that is their own issues hearing what they want to hear.fsrrage is definitely guilty of demonising them, that's his main narrative.
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08-08-2024, 12:00
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Re: Uk Riots and Protests (2024)
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All he’s doing is testing flipping the medium from The Sun, the Daily Mail and Telegraphs of the mainstream press. If he was able to usurp the undue influence of the written and broadcast press in the UK it’d give him disproportionate influence over policy making for decades to come as we’ve seen with Murdoch, the Barclay brothers, Lord Lebedev.
Make it work here - where next? Australia, New Zealand, the USA.
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The US is already a hotbed of conspiracism. Worse than us.
I think what Elon Musk is doing is worse than the press here, they wouldn't go so far as to fake an entire article and detention camps, but he has more reach and is a foreign actor in all this which is additionally concerning. However much we disagree, Brits are all vested in avoiding societal collapse and turning us into a low-trust society. Elon Musk doesn't. We're a petri dish he can play with for his amusement. It's why he excitedly tweets about the UK coming to a civil war and promoting any evidence he can to that effect, he doesn't really give a damn if it happens or not.
We have systems to hold our government accountable, to hold each other accountable and to hold the press accountable to some extent. There is little power we have over these American tech giants.
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08-08-2024, 12:43
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Re: Uk Riots and Protests (2024)
All the parties gleefully use X to peddle their own narratives, often divisive and borderline mis-informing, sometimes outright lies.
It’s a bit cry-bully, to be whinging about Musk.
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08-08-2024, 12:56
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Re: Uk Riots and Protests (2024)
Oh dear me
labour councilor calls for throats to be cut
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/...ls_a_crowd_of/
https://order-order.com/2024/08/08/l...s-of-fascists/
Far left thuggery in action.
hope the full force of the law comes down on this idiot
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08-08-2024, 13:14
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Re: Uk Riots and Protests (2024)
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The US is already a hotbed of conspiracism. Worse than us.
I think what Elon Musk is doing is worse than the press here, they wouldn't go so far as to fake an entire article and detention camps, but he has more reach and is a foreign actor in all this which is additionally concerning. However much we disagree, Brits are all vested in avoiding societal collapse and turning us into a low-trust society. Elon Musk doesn't. We're a petri dish he can play with for his amusement. It's why he excitedly tweets about the UK coming to a civil war and promoting any evidence he can to that effect, he doesn't really give a damn if it happens or not.
We have systems to hold our government accountable, to hold each other accountable and to hold the press accountable to some extent. There is little power we have over these American tech giants.
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I’ve certainly read entirely fabricated stories in the UK press, sometimes at the whim of Downing Street and the establishment. Sure, not all of them are football fans urinating on the dead at Hillsborough, but it absolutely happens to stir up resentment for or against some groups. Similarly Piers Morgan’s famous staged photos of British soldiers abusing prisoners in Iraq. Didn’t do him any harm in the end.
I don’t think we are all invested in avoiding societal collapse any more. I’m not convinced the underclass would notice the difference. Which is where it’s a bit problematic that they’re underfunding the thin blue line to keep us apart.
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