[Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

[Ramrod]

Corbyn Is An Enemy Of Women, Jews, And Free Speech…

has stood among jihadists and Islamists and sought to deny the British people our right to speak out. He is an enemy of free speech, this must by now be obvious.

As an ex-Labour activist, I feel an inner duty to atone for this. The only way I can is to be truthful about the nature of Labour and extreme-Left, about its sympathy with anti-Semitic jihadism, and its propensity to disguise otherwise naked misogyny.

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[Derek]

Does the leader of the opposition get briefed by the security services?

If so I pity the poor spook that has to do his vetting.

[Stop It]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

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*looks at link*

Yeah, former labour activist my behind. I can't wait to see what other right wing mouthpieces are cited here.

Corbyn is a lefty, we get it, citing extreme right wing sites that make Fox look unbiased is...weird.

Originally Posted by Ramrod

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The author of the article is the founder of Sharia Watch and she was de-selected from UKIP.


She makes statements like "Avoid eating halal meat as the profits are used by the Jihadis",

Coming to think of it, Corbyn is vegeterian, so by eating vegies you support the red lefties or the Green party

Originally Posted by Derek

Does the leader of the opposition get briefed by the security services?

If so I pity the poor spook that has to do his vetting.

He has to join the Privy Council I believe and there has been some confusion on if he is going to do it.

[figgyburn]

You never know.Staunch socialists can and do change their views.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10196868

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Stop It

*looks at link*

Yeah, former labour activist my behind. I can't wait to see what other right wing mouthpieces are cited here.

Corbyn is a lefty, we get it, citing extreme right wing sites that make Fox look unbiased is...weird.

Originally Posted by Carlos Carboni

The author of the article is the founder of Sharia Watch and she was de-selected from UKIP.


She makes statements like "Avoid eating halal meat as the profits are used by the Jihadis",

Coming to think of it, Corbyn is vegeterian, so by eating vegies you support the red lefties or the Green party

So rather than look at the information you dismiss it based on the identity of the messenger.
Typical lefty spin. Ignore what's said and rubbish the source

Well, if the source has a history of being biased/talking rubbish, it's fair game to rubbish the source, IMHO.

btw, both sides of the political spectrum do it, not just the 'lefties'.

Back to the thread topic, I am willing to let his current/future words and actions make my mind up about him and his team, rather than just write him off.

[Uncle Peter]

From unelectable buffoon who doesn't know if he needs a dump or a haircut to unelectable faux militant. Doesn't it just get better and better for Labour.

This party will self destruct in 5...4.3.2.1

[MalteseFalcon]

[Ignitionnet]

I think it's very clear that Corbyn opposes free speech. He is part of what's been termed the 'regressive left'. Opposes the politically correct mantra and his crew are all over you.

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I think it's very clear that Corbyn opposes free speech. He is part of what's been termed the 'regressive left'. Opposes the politically correct mantra and his crew are all over you.

what makes you think that?

I think he speaks to carefully because everybody in the media tries to twist what he says...

No time for corbyn or his views tbh but it will be good to have an opposition with some clear blue water between it and the current government as for the last decade they were all a mangled mess all seemingly singing from the same hymn sheet just some were a little louder then the others. Does it make labour unelectable in the next general election I don't know guess it will depend how annoyed the public are with Cameron's cronies by then.

Originally Posted by Carlos Carboni

what makes you think that?

I think he speaks to carefully because everybody in the media tries to twist what he says...

He doesn't help himself and it looks like Labour will have to spend a good chunk of time explaining the 'context' of what he has previously said. Especially since he doesn't seem to want to give interviews himself.

For example he wouldn't condemn ISIS explicitly. Instead he engaged in the irritating moral relativism that is characteristic of his type. That is he would only seem to condemn ISIS by also condemning America at the same time 'ISIS just have terrible things, just as America have done terrible things' as if you can draw any parallels between the two when I don't think you can.

Corbyn comes from the wing of politics, and there are people on both the left and the right who do this, that think their opponents aren't just wrong but are evil. You can't deal with people like that, they're too far gone from rational and moderate discourse.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Carlos Carboni

what makes you think that?

I think he speaks to carefully because everybody in the media tries to twist what he says...

You must've missed the part where he attended a rally protesting the printing of cartoons of Muhammad by a Danish publication.

A direct quote from him during that rally:

We demand that people show respect for each other’s community, each other’s faith and each other’s religion.

A rally organised by a group who opposed repeal of section 28 of the Local Government Act stating:

…homosexual practice as equivalent to marriage or in a morally neutral way is deeply offensive to Muslims.

If he insists on supporting bigoted fascists who oppose free speech and demand blasphemy laws to protect their religious sensibilities he only has himself to blame if he is tarred with a similar brush.

I'm sure I could find countless other examples.

I admire the man's passion, and I am a firm believer in the plurality he will bring to our politics, but I consider him illiberal, his associations with countless extremely questionable parties cast a shadow over him, and his ability to identify many of the issues in our society, but providing disastrous solutions, infuriating.