WikiLeaks - Page 18

tweedle · 06-02-2016, 18:25

This is crazy lol, he could of walked into the street at any moment,

So are we saying anyone accused of rape/murder/pedophilia, etc should just run to the Ecuadorean embassy stay there until Europe decides they were arbitrarily detained. Then walk free?

heero_yuy · 06-02-2016, 18:28

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Originally Posted by tweedle

This is crazy lol, he could of walked into the street at any moment,

So are we saying rapists/murderers/pedophiles/etc should just run to the Ecuadorean embassy stay there until Europe decides they were arbitrarily detained. Then walk free?

He is none of those until found guilty by trial. The problem here is that the USA has a vendetta against him and he fears that Sweden will enforce an extradition request from said USA.

Osem · 06-02-2016, 18:53

If the US gets hold of him he'll get 999 years.

tweedle · 06-02-2016, 18:54

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

He is none of those until found guilty by trial. The problem here is that the USA has a vendetta against him and he fears that Sweden will enforce an extradition request from said USA.

But he is accused of a sex crime.

**Chris** · 06-02-2016, 19:06

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

He is none of those until found guilty by trial. The problem here is that the USA has a vendetta against him and he fears that Sweden will enforce an extradition request from said USA.

The USA has made no extradition request. In fact, if the USA wanted him, it would be easier for them to request it from the UK, from where it would be much easier.

Assange is wanted for questioning over rape allegations in Sweden and he has fled into the Ecuadorian embassy in order to evade lawful arrest.

Everything else - everything - is a smoke screen.

**Hugh** · 06-02-2016, 19:53

Nice article about some of the legal myths surrounding this case.

http://www.newstatesman.com/david-al...ge-extradition

Osem · 06-02-2016, 20:00

Well Gorgeous George Galloway reckons he's been very hard done by so...

Stuart · 06-02-2016, 20:10

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

He is none of those until found guilty by trial.

Which, I'd like to point out, he has delayed by requesting asylum in Ecuador. I'd also like to point out that he is effectively in prison (although voluntarily) and has been so likely for longer than he would have had he gone to court and been convicted.

As noted by Chris and Hugh, any extradition from Sweden is likely to be considerably more difficult for the US than any from the UK, and who's to say that the US couldn't effectively bargain with or bully Ecuador. Surely they'd be a more easy target than Sweden or the UK.

Kymmy · 06-02-2016, 20:30

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

He is none of those until found guilty by trial. The problem here is that the USA has a vendetta against him and he fears that Sweden will enforce an extradition request from said USA.

Does though a not guilty or a non trial mean that someone is truely innocent or does it just mean that there is reasonable doubt?

If someone rapes another but there is insufficient evidence he/she is still a rapist in the eyes of the victim just not in the eyes of the law or the public in general
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**Hugh** · 06-02-2016, 20:49

I wonder if Ronnie Biggs' family will sue the UK Government because he was arbitrarily detained in Brazil, as he would have been arrested if he came to the UK.

Osem · 06-02-2016, 21:56

Where there's blame there's a claim...

techguyone · 06-02-2016, 23:10

I bet he wished he'd picked a better embassy. maybe one with a garden. Or a space to go outside.
He's effectively living inside a room in a flat.

tweedle · 06-02-2016, 23:24

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Originally Posted by techguyone

I bet he wished he'd picked a better embassy. maybe one with a garden. Or a space to go outside.
He's effectively living inside a room in a flat.

An I bet those working at the embassy are getting sick of him,

Tezcatlipoca · 07-02-2016, 01:42

I still like to think that he's spent the last few years forced to listen to this on repeat...

**Mick** · 07-03-2017, 18:12

Wikileaks have released all kinds of info today, in which experts say at first glance looks genuine, 1000's of documents have been released detailing hacking tools and methods, so far, they are saying MI5 and CIA are routinely using Smart TV, iPhones, iPads, Microsoft systems to bug their targets...

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MI5 and the CIA colluded to develop viruses to turn Samsung smart TVs into household bugs, according "leaked" intelligence documents published by WikiLeaks.

The documents - said to have come from the CIA's Centre for Cyber Intelligence - allegedly prove that a CIA branch worked with MI5 on a project to "infest smart TVs, transforming them into covert microphones".

The so-called "weeping angel" program would trick users into thinking their TV was off when it was actually on, it is claimed.

WikiLeaks says the documents show smart TVs were then used as a bug "recording conversations in the room and sending them over the internet to a covert CIA server".

http://news.sky.com/story/cia-cyber-...leaks-10793709