Bring Back Fox Hunting

[injuneer]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Could someone please explain how exactly a free vote translates to "Tories will bring back fox hunting" as not all tories want to see it return, similarly with the LDs and Labour, and the other parties?

Do the other parties get a say? As it stands 293 MPs are for a repeal & 328 are likely to vote against plus there are a few who won't vote either way.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Cheers Chris. Before this thread was closed I was wondering if this issue would have any impact on the way people were going to vote? I heard a couple of women say on radio phone in's during the run up to polling day that they couldn't possibly vote for those nasty tories because of this and tbh couldn't believe what I was hearing, how some could put this issue on the same level as the economic crisis beggars belief imo and we'll see how important those "nasty tories" think it is during their first parliament, I bet it isn't even discussed.

I think what most people who did base their voting position on this issue wee doing so because of the wider implications of the potential motivations behind such a move.

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Originally Posted by Masque

Well with hero Dave now in charge they all expect the hunting ban to repealed, I personally would rather see a huntsman peeled.

Maybe they could get Joshua from "V" to do it.

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

Could someone please explain how exactly a free vote translates to "Tories will bring back fox hunting" as not all tories want to see it return, similarly with the LDs and Labour, and the other parties?

The vast majority of the sitting Tory MPs voted against the ban. As there are now a good deal more of them, there was a danger that this would happen.

There are over 100 new Tory MPs - you're making a hell of an assumption there.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Masque

Well with hero Dave now in charge they all expect the hunting ban to repealed, I personally would rather see a huntsman peeled.

And then dipped in salt

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

There are over 100 new Tory MPs - you're making a hell of an assumption there.

Although I don't have the link to hand right now, but a survey was done, close to the election, of PPCs. Most of the Tory candidates supported a repeal.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

And then dipped in salt

Ouch....

I hope it goes to a free vote, and I hope the repeal fails.

Put it to bed for once and all.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

I hope it goes to a free vote, and I hope the repeal fails.

Put it to bed for once and all.

I hope it gets no where near another vote, far to much time has been wasted on this already.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I hope it gets no where near another vote, far to much time has been wasted on this already.

Problem is that it will just keep niggling away (on both sides) - too much white noise; squelch it for once and all.

[frogstamper]

As Flyboy says most Tory Mp's are in favour of a repeal, but if they vote on what their constituents want we would be left with the status quo.
I believe it was foreverwar who posted a link showing that around 70% of Tory voters favoured the current law, so if these 100 new Tory MP's really believe in the FPTP voting system because an MP is accountable to a certain constituency and constituents then surely a free vote is the perfect opportunity to prove this.

[Pierre]

As I have said before, whilst other forms of hunting are allowed then Fox hunting must be allowed to continue.

It doesn't make sense to single out one form of hunting and ban it.

No if there was a motion to ban hunting of all types then that would be fair enough. So as I've said either ban it all or not at all.

[Flyboy]

What other forms of hunting are allowed, which include the pursuit of an animal close to death by exhaustion and eventually torn to pieces by a frenzied, baying pack of hounds, accompanied by up to a hundred people on horseback, all shouting for blood?

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

What other forms of hunting are allowed, which include the pursuit of an animal close to death by exhaustion and eventually torn to pieces by a frenzied, baying pack of hounds, accompanied by up to a hundred people on horseback, all shouting for blood?

Marriage (or more specifically Divorce)?

[Flyboy]

At least the quarry can get their own back by mating with a younger, foxier female than the hunter?

[snowey]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

What other forms of hunting are allowed, which include the pursuit of an animal close to death by exhaustion and eventually torn to pieces by a frenzied, baying pack of hounds, accompanied by up to a hundred people on horseback, all shouting for blood?

cruelty to animals, the huntsmen should be jailed, or torn to pieces.

[Neil22]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

says senior tory

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...g-1776160.html

Personally I don't think we should have wasted as much time as we did debating it in parliment, the country had and has much more pressing issues to deal with, although it did rather annoy me to hear that arch buffon Tony Banks shouting ''that showed the toffs'' when it finally was banned, he was obviously more interested in some sort of class discrimination than any issues of animal rights/cruelty and besides if the figures are true about the huge increase in fox deaths since the ban then I am all for it staying and it's a shame we cant do the same in the cities, I am sick of seeing the mess they create and the occasional cat being chased.

Ah the barbaric Tory sport that is fox hunting. I'd like some of these so-called English gentlemen in a real fight, they'll have the brown stuff running from their riding pants by the bucket full.