Formula 1 2009 Season [may contain real time spoilers]

[sherer]

Originally Posted by hedgie

Given all the resources of the FIA why don't they simply mandate that all teams provide unedited radio and telemetry data?

For McLaren it was damn stupid to try it on, even fourth would have been a major result from where they started. I am disappointed that they didn't come clean.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74146

FOM have access to all the radio traffic now including Ferrari who didn't used to make this available.

As for telemetry I think this should be available as they now use the McLaren ECU on all cars.

I think they need to have a cut off point and after that all results should stand

[hedgie]

It beggers belief that it takes this long to sort it all out, what chance the casual punter understanding this.

M

[banjo]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

OMG!!!!

I'm a hrad core F1 fan, have been for the last 20 years...but this is getting rediculous...I'm seriously wondering why bother watch a race if the result isn;t going to be the result

Make that 35 years and I am gutted, it is now pointless, [sorry for the pun] to watch F1.

I am very sad.

[hedgie]

Full details on Autosport.

Radio Transcript
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74159

FIA Position
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74160

The transcript shows that McLaren and Lewis were confused

[SnoopZ]

Hamiliton disqualified for misleading the stewards then! What a shame the team should have been honest when the stewards asked whether he had received an instruction by his team to let Trulli passed! Basically they got caught lying

[banjo]

But why would he let Trulli past, if Lewis was already in 3rd place behind the pace car, it makes no sense ? and why would Trulli overtake under the pace car as he knew he would be punished ???

[Hom3r]

This is my opinion.

Next week the defuser teams with be found to have illegal defusers and stripped of there points, this would have meant that Hamilton would get 10 points Ferrari intrnational Assitance can't have this. So find an silly excuse to strip him of his points.

[Jon T]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

This is my opinion.

Next week the defuser teams with be found to have illegal defusers and stripped of there points, this would have meant that Hamilton would get 10 points Ferrari intrnational Assitance can't have this. So find an silly excuse to strip him of his points.

Or put it another way: If Ferrari don't score points, or do score but lower down the point scoring order, then the race results stands for nothing. The FIA seem to be hell bent on making sure that if Ferrari don't figure in the points, then no driver who has a chance of the championship can either.

[banjo]

Well this sounds fair enough

[hedgie]

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

Hamiliton disqualified for misleading the stewards then! What a shame the team should have been honest when the stewards asked whether he had received an instruction by his team to let Trulli passed! Basically they got caught lying

Not sure if it was a deliberate attempt or just a massive c**k up. The radio transcript clearly shows they wanted to play it fair, it seems the rules are so complicated It looks like its cost Dave Ryan (McLaren sporting director) his job, after nearly 30 years with the team.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74180

I dont think anybody wanted that. This is a low point for F1 when will be able to concentrate on the racing !

Originally Posted by Kymmy

OMG!!!!

I'm a hard core F1 fan, have been for the last 20 years...but this is getting rediculous...I'm seriously wondering why bother watch a race if the result isn;t going to be the result

I stopped watching FI when ferrari ordered barrichello to pull over and let schumacher through a few years ago i thought what a farce.

Sadly the days of real racing are long gone in FI, the Lewis incident just being the latest example sadly.

[sherer]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

This is my opinion.

Next week the defuser teams with be found to have illegal defusers and stripped of there points, this would have meant that Hamilton would get 10 points Ferrari intrnational Assitance can't have this. So find an silly excuse to strip him of his points.

that won't happen as the FIA have already said the points from the first two races will stand.

If you read the radio transscript Hamilton clearly states he let Trulli back passed as they were too afraid they might get penalised for passing under the yellow

[hedgie]

Originally Posted by hedgie

Not sure if it was a deliberate attempt or just a massive c**k up. The radio transcript clearly shows they wanted to play it fair, it seems the rules are so complicated It looks like its cost Dave Ryan (McLaren sporting director) his job, after nearly 30 years with the team.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74180

I dont think anybody wanted that. This is a low point for F1 when will be able to concentrate on the racing !

Looks like it was a deliberate desicion to be shall we say "vague".

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74202

Its just sad............................................... .......

[Kymmy]

And to top it all off Hamilton's now been fined €1200 for speeding in the pitlane during practice

Anyway Ferrari has topped practice with redbull coming in strong as well.... Jenson is already down to 7th and Lewis is 11th

[CHiLL]

The Ferrari International Assistance are having the time of their lives this week aren't they. I read in the paper today that they were considering kicking Hamilton and McLaren out of the whole 2009 season. How the frigging hell can that be justified? The Spy Gate saga was a lot more severe than overtaking under the safety car and withholding/misleading the stewards. It's becoming a joke, it really is.