[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

Originally Posted by Damien

Surely the NWO will just rig the vote?

Unfortunately, with the Illuminati, Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Freemasons, Opus Dei, Reptilian Overlords, and various other Global Domination groups also rigging the referendum, it will split the vote...

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Unfortunately, with the Illuminati, Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Freemasons, Opus Dei, Reptilian Overlords, and various other Global Domination groups also rigging the referendum, it will split the vote...

I'm waiting for the Dan Brown book to follow ..

Question: can I still Roam for free in the NWO?

Originally Posted by ianch99

I'm waiting for the Dan Brown book to follow ..

Question: can I still Roam for free in the NWO?

Yes but we, I mean they, are always listening.

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Where did ITV get this audience? They're really good. We're so used to the dross they find on Question Time....

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It's amazing how poor both sides are at dealing with their weaknesses. Gove last week with 'people are sick of experts' and Farage's 'GDP isn't that important' and Cameron both weeks on immigration where he just dodges the question.

[Gavin78]

I thought Cameron was a cut and paste from the sky news debate from the other night he just went over the same old stuff he's like a one trick pony.

[denphone]

Frankly most of what l have seen so far Gavin has been politicians from both sides obfuscating on a regular basis when they are asked any hard difficult questions. about many of the issues of the EU referendum so one has to seek out their own factual information about a good many things.

[papa smurf]

EU threat to your pension: Expert says vote leave to protect retirement pots

Edi Truell, former chairman of the London Pension Fund Authority and founder of the Pension Insurance Corporation, has said that he is backing a Brexit to protect British pensions.

His stark warning over the terrible cost of staying in the EU comes amid further revelations that Brussels wants to take control of the British tax system with a European tax code imposed across the 28 member states.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...etirement-pots

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EU referendum live: voter registration site crashes after Cameron-Farage debate

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-farage-debate

the good old the websites gone down ploy /we need more time

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Taf

Oh dear, all I've heard the past couple of days is how Brexit is "racist".

They really are trying to sling muck wherever they can.

Godwin's Law before long I expect.

Therein lies the proof that they're not prepared to enter into a proper debate about migration etc. no matter what they've grudgingly had to 'promise' in public. Every so often people like Gordon Brown, Pat Glass and Emily Thornberry remind us what they really think about those who elect them and it's highly ironic that whilst these people set themselves up as somehow opposing nasty stereotyping, they don't mind indulging in it when their argument is exposed as being flawed. Nasty hypocrites.

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Originally Posted by denphone

Frankly most of what l have seen so far Gavin has been politicians from both sides obfuscating on a regular basis when they are asked any hard difficult questions. about many of the issues of the EU referendum so one has to seek out their own factual information about a good many things.

There's not really much doubt really big arguments is there? If you want an elected and removable UK govt. to set our laws, run our economy and be able to control migration then you have to leave. If not, vote to stay in and watch as the EU takes more power. The rest, i.e. what'll happen if, is conjecture on both sides.

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Originally Posted by Gavin78

I thought Cameron was a cut and paste from the sky news debate from the other night he just went over the same old stuff he's like a one trick pony.

Well he's now having to use every possible argument to justify staying in even if doing so contradicts stuff he was saying earlier in the year. IMHO the way this has been handled is a major embarrassment but we've seen before the sort of tactics the EU and their proponents use when an electorate is in danger of making the 'wrong choice'. I fear we're in that situation now and there's already talk of parliament effectively ignoring the result and voting to keep us in the single market (with free movement) if we vote to leave the EU.

[Big Brian]

Unfortunately I didn't see the debate so I've been looking online for last night's programme on ITV but can only find clips from it.

Anyway it doesn't really matter what they argue about now as a vote to remain in the EU IMHO is a green light for them to implement their policies. There are stories of Euro Police on our streets, a joint European army, air force and navy, closer political union and monetary union and they are all out there for people to read for themselves. If people can't see that this will happen should we give them the green light then sorry but they deserve what they get. It's just a pity the rest of us have to suffer.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...ligence-agency

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/674...rexit-Brussels

Is this what remainers really want?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

EU referendum live: voter registration site crashes after Cameron-Farage debate

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-farage-debate

the good old the websites gone down ploy /we need more time

You've got to question the intelligence of those stupid enough to leave to the last minute to register. Probably students; wonder if they realise they're also registering for council tax and debt collection agencies

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Originally Posted by Big Brian

Unfortunately I didn't see the debate so I've been looking online for last night's programme on ITV but can only find clips from it.

Anyway it doesn't really matter what they argue about now as a vote to remain in the EU IMHO is a green light for them to implement their policies. There are stories of Euro Police on our streets, a joint European army, air force and navy, closer political union and monetary union and they are all out there for people to read for themselves. If people can't see that this will happen should we give them the green light then sorry but they deserve what they get. It's just a pity the rest of us have to suffer.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...ligence-agency

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/674...rexit-Brussels

Is this what remainers really want?

What I'd really like is for people to use their own brain cells and not believe everything in the Mail/Express or any politician that opens their mouth.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

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EU referendum live: voter registration site crashes after Cameron-Farage debate

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-farage-debate

the good old the websites gone down ploy /we need more time

People really shouldn't leave it two hours before the deadline to register. Still a deadline is a deadline and you should also expect to still be able to register if you're ahead of it. They might extend it a da. Don't see the harm if it's possible to do so...

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by Mr K

You've got to question the intelligence of those stupid enough to leave to the last minute to register. Probably students; wonder if they realise they're also registering for council tax and debt collection agencies

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What I'd really like is for people to use their own brain cells and not believe everything in the Mail/Express or any politician that opens their mouth.

This is not just paper talk. Do some research and you'll find the EU have plans for an European army and Police Force.

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Originally Posted by Damien

People really shouldn't leave it two hours before the deadline to register. Still a deadline is a deadline and you should also expect to still be able to register if you're ahead of it. They might extend it a da. Don't see the harm if it's possible to do so...

Those who wanted to register should have done so long ago if it meant that much to them. I'm sorry but, as you say a deadline is a deadline and that's that. They knew the deadline and have had plenty of time to register to vote. It's their own fault if they leave it till the 11th hour as anyone with half a brain would know that super demand on a website is bound to cause it to crash.

If they have a genuine reason and can prove it then by all means let them register but in this case it's just the way it is.

If the vote means so much to them then they should have registered long ago. My Sons who have never been on the voting register are now on it because the vote means that much to them. Like myself and my wife we are all vote leave.

Originally Posted by Big Brian

Those who wanted to register should have done so long ago if it meant that much to them. I'm sorry but, as you say a deadline is a deadline and that's that. They knew the deadline and have had plenty of time to register to vote. It's their own fault if they leave it till the 11th hour as anyone with half a brain would know that super demand on a website is bound to cause it to crash.

I agree mostly but if you tell people you have to register by midnight and it goes down at 10pm then if feasible you should extend it. If they can't do it because of legal or practical reasons then I don't have much sympathy for those who failed to register but if it's trivial to keep it open for an extra day then really whats the harm? Frankly if it possible to keep it open an extra day then they should have do so from the beginning, allowing people to register for as long as possible.

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I suspect both campaigns would approve anyway.

Still even if they don't an impressive 500,000 additional people registered to vote yesterday! https://www.gov.uk/performance/register-to-vote

It's applications so not all of them will be valid and some will be re-registrations from people making sure but still very good.

[jonbxx]

Want to see how the EU put through the new Tobacco Products Directive, including repealing the old one? It's here - http://ec.europa.eu/health/tobacco/p...n/index_en.htm

The process is certainly comprehensive, from initial consultations, through Commission Proposal, Council approval and Parliament voting, all the documents are there

[Taf]

My neighbour knocked our door at 11:30 last evening. He had been trying to register to vote online for 3 days. I gave it a try but by the cutoff time of midnight the site still had not opened.

Originally Posted by Taf

My neighbour knocked our door at 11:30 last evening. He had been trying to register to vote online for 3 days. I gave it a try but by the cutoff time of midnight the site still had not opened.

3 days? It wasn't down that long.