08-04-2008, 18:47
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
the body language in those tubes are very telling .....
a new entry from charles just now
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technolo...ade_phorm.html
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08-04-2008, 18:53
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Delta Whiskey
Mechanism of Phorm tracking system revealed:
http://www.heise-online.co.uk/securi...--/news/110497
If I read a quick look of the white paper correctly, not allowing or blocking cookies from webwise.net will mean you get a new identifier for every website (see item 29).
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Thats a rehash and summary of the paper published a few days ago.
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08-04-2008, 19:00
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by popper
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Quote: "Use Safari to evade Phorm"
Yay!!
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08-04-2008, 19:03
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucevans
Quote: "Use Safari to evade Phorm"
Yay!! 
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Another reason for Mac users to be smug...
I wonder if Opera is out of the 'popular' category?
[edit]
Not according to this thread...
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08-04-2008, 19:07
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
smug indeed, ill just use my Amiga browsers in the emulators and be happy they are unlikely to be tracked  or BeOS or QNX or !!!!... for that matter....
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08-04-2008, 19:09
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Ooh I'll have start surfing on me Wii or DS
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08-04-2008, 19:11
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Thanks to everyone who has contacted me since Sunday with suggestions about http://www.inphormationdesk.org and apologies for not replying directly yet - I will soon, but the day job has to be done as well.
I have added another Q&A item to the home page of
What is new about it? Retailers and companies like Google already collect information about you when you visit their websites. The difference with Phorm is that with a few exceptions it intercepts and reads everything you do in every website you visit, and processes this information to build a total picture of you.
Please can I have any suggestions to improve accuracy, clarity and impact.
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08-04-2008, 19:12
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
yep that works too.
infact this Phorm might be the very best thing to finally bring the mobile browsing to the masses.
we are seeing a lot of new 11N and Wimax mobile and mini kit coming to market real soon, all we need now is the wide spread wireless networks..
theres got to be some PR marketing in that lot, and we might not mind these standard delivery adverts for a short time, while we decide what works for us as the UK populas.
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08-04-2008, 19:18
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
OK, the article is really coming together now. I plan to have the first draft complete by Friday afternoon at which point I would appreciate as many people as possible to proof read it. I am sure you can understand it gets difficult to proof read such a long document yourself, so all help appreciated.
I am not an English Language major so I am happy to accept comments regarding grammar too (not to mention typos and spelling errors).
The weekend will consist of me refining the paper according to the feedback I receive. Then on Monday or Tuesday it will be published on a 10mbit fibre connection and a digg article will be submitted. It is important to get as many people to digg the article as possible in order to get the story onto the front page and raise awareness in the public domain.
The paper will be Creative Commons so anyone is welcome to post a copy of it anywhere they see fit; the more people who read it, hopefully the more people will start demanding action for the illegal trials in 2006/2007.
I will also be exploring any opportunities to have the paper published in journals/relevant offline sources so if any of you know any publishers or magazine editors who you think might be interested, please get in touch.
Alexander Hanff
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08-04-2008, 19:26
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff
I would appreciate as many people as possible to proof read it......
.....I am not an English Language major so I am happy to accept comments regarding grammar too (not to mention typos and spelling errors).
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Certainly will.
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08-04-2008, 19:29
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
when compleate, you could put it on the http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page as well, thats all CC and they have masses of bandwidth.
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08-04-2008, 19:34
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Oh another thing, I seem to be having a problem locating an "official" source to reference the Scottish version of the Computer Misuse Act. I have relied on the information from the UKCrypto mailing list for my citation but I would prefer to link to an official government source for the reference (which is why it is currently not referenced).
If anyone can find the Scottish version of the Act please link to it in this thread.
Alexander Hanff
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Now for my dinner
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08-04-2008, 19:35
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
This any good?
It's a section concerning Scotland in the main Act. Maybe there isn't a completely separate Act for Scotland?
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08-04-2008, 19:37
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff
Oh another thing, I seem to be having a problem locating an "official" source to reference the Scottish version of the Computer Misuse Act. I have relied on the information from the UKCrypto mailing list for my citation but I would prefer to link to an official government source for the reference (which is why it is currently not referenced).
If anyone can find the Scottish version of the Act please link to it in this thread.
Alexander Hanff
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Now for my dinner 
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Any use?
http://www.davros.org/legal/cma.html
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08-04-2008, 19:41
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobbydaler
This any good?
It's a section concerning Scotland in the main Act. Maybe there isn't a completely separate Act for Scotland?
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Nope, I already read that. Section 3 of the Scottish Act is apparently very different to the England/Wales version. I have cited the entire section which I found on ukcrypto so if you have a read of the paper you can see the differences.
Thanks anyway
Alexander Hanff
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