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The source isn't that convincing, propaganda can come from both sides. Some independent verification is needed.
Given the heavy losses Ukraine are taking in the meat grinder fighting for a few square miles and with rusty F-16s some months away it’s perhaps the best chance for the counteroffensive if Wagner do.
Hence there will be a lot of clamour and excitement from the usual suspects.
Given this would be a reasonably anticipated response from Wagner PMC you’d expect Russia to be better prepared than last time - if indeed it’s a thing at all.
US intelligence sources have said the United States believes, based on preliminary and under review intel, the jet was downed by a surface-to-air missile originating in Russia.
The Ukrainian drone attack on Pskov: the genious strategy of the Ukrainian fighters will for many years be written in all the textbooks on warfare..
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Only two submarines have been destroyed by hostile action since the end of World War 2, both of them by British missiles (the last one was the Argentine vessel Santa Fe, damaged and forced to surface near South Georgia during an extensive attack by RN helicopters that dropped an entire arsenal on it, including an AS-12 missile that went right through it, holing it on both sides).
Gotta love Solovyov’s show though. The UK realiy does live rent free in his head.
Ukrainian pilots have successfully tested Swedish Gripen fighter jets as Stockholm is considering sending the planes to Ukraine, Swedish Radio reported on Sept. 14, citing the country's Defense Minister Pål Jonson.
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Could Swedens Grippen jets appear before F-16's?
Possibly, but there are not an awful lot of spare Gripens sitting around, whereas there are an enormous number of F-16s. In the long run the F-16 is going to become the backbone of the UA air force.
Ironically the transfer of Gripens would still require US re-export approval because they have GE engines (licensed from the Yanks and built by Volvo).
Possibly, but there are not an awful lot of spare Gripens sitting around, whereas there are an enormous number of F-16s. In the long run the F-16 is going to become the backbone of the UA air force.
Ironically the transfer of Gripens would still require US re-export approval because they have GE engines (licensed from the Yanks and built by Volvo).
Didn't know that about the engines Chris but agree about the F-16's.
Meanwhile UK being blamed for WWI and WWII on Russian media and Zelensky is an MI6 agent!
Only two submarines have been destroyed by hostile action since the end of World War 2, both of them by British missiles (the last one was the Argentine vessel Santa Fe, damaged and forced to surface near South Georgia during an extensive attack by RN helicopters that dropped an entire arsenal on it, including an AS-12 missile that went right through it, holing it on both sides).
Gotta love Solovyov’s show though. The UK realiy does live rent free in his head.
Are you sure its 2? AFAIK it is only the Santa Fe and that was scuttled sometime after engagement when being towed out of South Georgia so not really hostile action.
Ukraine’s Third Storm Brigade on the Bakhmut front says it has encircled and routed Russia’s 72nd Brigade, killing three batallion commanders and the Russian brigade’s intelligence chief as it retook the village of Andriyivka in a two-day operation.
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Russia accidentally drops aerial bomb on occupied Nova Kakhovka
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Are you sure its 2? AFAIK it is only the Santa Fe and that was scuttled sometime after engagement when being towed out of South Georgia so not really hostile action.
Ukraine’s Third Storm Brigade on the Bakhmut front says it has encircled and routed Russia’s 72nd Brigade, killing three batallion commanders and the Russian brigade’s intelligence chief as it retook the village of Andriyivka in a two-day operation.
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Russia accidentally drops aerial bomb on occupied Nova Kakhovka
Santa Fe was forced to the surface by naval aviation, then strafed, then finally had a missile through its hull that went in one side and out the other, forcing the crew to make for land and abandon ship. It absolutely was destroyed by the RN, even though it didn’t sink immediately. It would be churlish to deny the RN a kill in those circumstances - though I did say ‘destroyed’, not ‘sunk’. Rostov-on-Don was likewise destroyed, but not sunk, being in dry dock at the time.
After surrendering to British forces a skeleton crew, under guard, was ordered to move Santa Fe to a different pier. It sank during that manoeuvre, though nobody drowned (one Argentine sailor was mistakenly shot and killed because his captor believed he might be trying to scuttle it). The Argentines never claimed to have scuttled the boat - they said a hatch had been left open in the confusion leading it to take on water and sink. The harbour was shallow enough that the conning tower remained above the surface.
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