Will Scotland Leave the UK?
18-12-2014, 11:30
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Stop the scaremongering!
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18-12-2014, 12:42
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
Of course they will leave, its just a matter of when. In order to make sure it happens with the least amount of meltdown we should decide when and how before Salmond forces it upon us.
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18-12-2014, 12:44
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Originally Posted by Osem
Yes well this is the flip side of the coin - we all like to moan about fuel/energy prices but tend to forget all those companies and individuals whose livelihoods depend on them.
Wonder how well the SNP's vote would have stood up had this all happened a few months ago. Still I'm sure they have a credible 'plan B' to replace all that lost oil revenue...
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The UK's oil fields are a long way past the levels of production and return on investment that justified building massive industrial facilities in the middle of the sea. The only thing keeping them going is the belief that long term high sale prices for the product will enable all those rigs, helicopters and other expensive infrastructure to keep operating profitably. Only time will tell whether that belief will be borne out.
Thankfully, here in the UK we have a reasonably diverse economy in which oil accounts for 1.5% of the tax take. I pity any country where ... oooh ... 10-20% of public spending relied on it.
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19-12-2014, 16:25
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
I just cannot stand the SNP. They are a disgrace to Scotland ,
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20-12-2014, 00:11
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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I just cannot stand the SNP. They are a disgrace to Scotland ,
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12-01-2015, 19:10
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
Looks like the boost in members and possibly funds has given the SNP money to burn.
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THE SNP has agreed to provide a chauffeur-driven car for former leader Alex Salmond.
Party bosses approved the perk. It is believed to be the first time a political party has continued to pick up the tab for a vehicle after a leader has quit.
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http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile...lmond.26228718
Maybe the stories about flunkies washing and drying his hands are true after all. Can't have The dear leader mixing with the proles.
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12-01-2015, 19:24
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
Sounds like just the sort of deal that well known working class hero Arthur Scargill might have secured for himself from the NUM...
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13-01-2015, 17:43
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Originally Posted by Derek
Looks like the boost in members and possibly funds has given the SNP money to burn.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile...lmond.26228718
Maybe the stories about flunkies washing and drying his hands are true after all. Can't have The dear leader mixing with the proles. |
be easier to fill the Daimler up now that the Oil prices have collapsed...
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15-01-2015, 18:47
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
True. Is anyone up there in SNP land talking about how their sums and projections are looking now?
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15-01-2015, 18:52
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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True. Is anyone up there in SNP land talking about how their sums and projections are looking now?
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Nope. Wee Nippy has made like a Trident submarine and vanished without trace. They are keeping their heads well down and hoping everyone's too stupid to do the sums and work out what would happen to an independent Scotland's balance of payments if a situation like this occurred, with the buck stopping in Edinburgh rather than London.
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15-01-2015, 18:53
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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True. Is anyone up there in SNP land talking about how their sums and projections are looking now?
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It varies between them saying the oil was only ever a bonus and wild conspiracy theories that Westminster are behind it to destroy the North Sea oil industry as revenge for the referendum.
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15-01-2015, 18:54
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Originally Posted by Derek
It varies between them saying the oil was only ever a bonus and wild conspiracy theories that Westminster are behind it to destroy the North Sea oil industry as revenge for the referendum.
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Yes, oil is "just a bonus" but was simultaneously something they thought the UK's balance of payments couldn't do without, therefore being the final argument in favour of currency union.
Cogent, internally consistent arguments are not the Nats' forte.
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15-01-2015, 19:04
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
Is anyone planning on asking the SNP what the oil price situation is doing to their sums and projections? I think I would be asking very loudly indeed but perhaps everyone's keeping their powder dry.
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15-01-2015, 21:48
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
The Scottish "government" has been asked why the constant deluge of oil price projections we were treated to prior to the referendum, seems suddenly to have dried up. It has been asked if it wouldn't mind issuing a new projection, allowing for recent changes. It has declined to do so.
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15-01-2015, 22:12
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Originally Posted by Chris
The Scottish "government" has been asked why the constant deluge of oil price projections we were treated to prior to the referendum, seems suddenly to have dried up. It has been asked if it wouldn't mind issuing a new projection, allowing for recent changes. It has declined to do so.
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Oh right. Now why would that possibly be?... 
Is anyone up there daring to contemplate just what the mood would be like now had Salmond and his crew got their way or is that verboten too?
Must be a whole lot of red faces up there and not due to all that Scotch...
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