Global warming 'past the point of no return'

If that is the case then we still have a lot of problems to face. Whether or not climate change is mans fault or not the next 100 years are going to see sea levels rise and temperatures rising in some places to a point where the land becomes uninhabitable. So where are all the people going to go? Land mass is going to shrink and inhabitable landmass is going to be reduced so the population is going to decrease.

Put that with the bees vanishing and possible problems with crops and food surplies we are in serious trouble whatever the cause.

Scientists do say that greenhouse gasses the worst I believe is methane is contributing to temperature increases irrelevent of whether the Earth climate changes on its own anyway

[injuneer]

This is interesting, James Lovelock suggests that climate change & other factors, lack of food & resources could reduce the human population from the current 6 to 7 Billion down to 1 Billion by the end of the century.
C'est la vie

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/sh...-humanity.html

[Osem]

Originally Posted by injuneer

....C'est la vie

C'est la mort more like...

[Mick Fisher]

Hmmm, while there is undoubtably some substance to the claims of the catastrophians, the longer this argument drags on with the ineffective but, of course, revenue raising, half baked carbon footprint exchange schemes initiated to combat it, the more I am thinking the whole thing will turn out to another over-hyped scare like Y2K, bird flu and swine flu to name but a few.

Take X daily to reduce cholesterol, NO! Don't take X it causes cancer, take X under medical supervision, it causes cancer but reduces obesity............and so it goes on. We are bombarded with such pseudo science drivel almost every time we listen to the news or read a newspaper.

It seems there always has to be some dark foreboding threat hanging over us to shape our existance. In the absence of a real war we lived for ages under the threat of the cold war and communism. As soon as that fizzled out or maybe became unsustainable we are now wallowing in Terrorism and Global Warming.

I wonder what the next crisis to club us with might be.

Certainly food for thought.

[Dai]

Originally Posted by Mick Fisher

It seems there always has to be some dark foreboding threat hanging over us to shape our existance. In the absence of a real war we lived for ages under the threat of the cold war and communism. As soon as that fizzled out or maybe became unsustainable we are now wallowing in Terrorism and Global Warming.

"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Hermann Goering

For pacifists substitute denyers. The principle remains the same and as effective as it was in the past.

Mick, Y2K was not an overhyped scare - a lot of work went into making sure the scare did not become reality (for instance, I was in at work at 5am Jan 1st, 2000, and most of my team had been in since 11pm the previous night, and that was after about two years work of a team of 80 staff, not counting all the MS, Novell, Oracle, etc updates, and all the Telecomms/Server/etc firmware updates that were supplied).

[papa smurf]

it was

[Mick Fisher]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Mick, Y2K was not an overhyped scare - a lot of work went into making sure the scare did not become reality (for instance, I was in at work at 5am Jan 1st, 2000, and most of my team had been in since 11pm the previous night, and that was after about two years work of a team of 80 staff, not counting all the MS, Novell, Oracle, etc updates, and all the Telecomms/Server/etc firmware updates that were supplied).

Point taken but in spite of all the background work that obviously succeeded in nullifying the Y2K threat Joe Public was kept on the edge of his seat til midnight waiting for the World to end.

Well those that were still sober and gullible enough to give a damn.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

it was

Believe me, y2k was not an overhyped scare. A lot of work was done by a lot of people to avert that scare.

[adzii_nufc]

Global Warming is a myth....

Scientists were lacking Funds many years ago, Global warming just arises from nowhere and Scientists are being funded left right and centre

Nothing slightly Fishy there?

A hippy and a bong could work this whole thing out

Oh sure, it's all a conspiracy by the evil scientists.

Which ones, by the way? I mean, exactly which ones? Presumably you know, seeing as it was so simple to work out?

[adzii_nufc]

Originally Posted by Chris

Oh sure, it's all a conspiracy by the evil scientists.

Which ones, by the way? I mean, exactly which ones? Presumably you know, seeing as it was so simple to work out?

And you have 100% solid UMTAMPERED evidence that Global warming Exists ?

Until then.. Its just a rumour

[chris9991]

I did hear somewhere that the melting ice caps may result in greater volcanic activity. I think the argument was that the ice caps keep the magma below cooler.

But, hey I'll be alright; I don't live near a volcano

[AdamD]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Mick, Y2K was not an overhyped scare - a lot of work went into making sure the scare did not become reality (for instance, I was in at work at 5am Jan 1st, 2000, and most of my team had been in since 11pm the previous night, and that was after about two years work of a team of 80 staff, not counting all the MS, Novell, Oracle, etc updates, and all the Telecomms/Server/etc firmware updates that were supplied).

Agreed
I worked at Worthing hospital and a lot of time was spent updating all the old (486 era) computers with bioses, as well as the servers, which were also DX 100mhz models, heh
Not to mention all the windows updates (Windows 95/3.11)
I don't think they wanted to take the risk incase the medical systems stopped working come 2000, especially considering how they were based on Access 2.0 databases

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

And you have 100% solid UMTAMPERED evidence that Global warming Exists ?

Until then.. Its just a rumour