Uk Riots and Protests (2024)

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Sir K is the most competent PM we've had for 14 years. Granted that isn't setting the bar high.

Based on what metric?

1 month into the job, national riots, his contribution……….to throw fuel on them.

That’s without taking in the attack on pensioners.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Ok, if you were Prime Minister, what you do?

He isn’t, so doesn’t have to do anything.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

There were reports of a large mob in cleethorpes and similar reports in Grimsby but both turned out to be false

They might just have been waiting for Wetherspoons to open

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

There were reports of a large mob in cleethorpes and similar reports in Grimsby but both turned out to be false

I'd be more worried about Bradford City fans descending on you next week...

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Based on what metric?

A common sense metric. Boat crossings/ immigration issues haven't happened in the last few weeks. The riots have been organised by far right agitators, and their knuckle draggers, not Sir K.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Boat crossings/ immigration issues haven't happened in the last few weeks.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...3-31fb2813ab77

(For the avoidance of doubt, I think “small boats” are an absolute irrelevance whipped up to create tension)

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

A common sense metric. Boat crossings/ immigration issues haven't happened in the last few sweeks. The riots have been organised by far right agitators, and their knuckle draggers, not Sir K.

Thats not common sense it’s sycophancy.

But I’ll give you the boat crossings…….although he’s done nothing since taking over to stop them?

and I’ll agree that Starmer has not organised the riots ….although I don’t think anyone suggested he has.

But when the riots did start, his response was, is and has been god awful……and then he went MIA.

So no, not showing signs of competency, quite the opposite.

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Hits out at rioters ……….and successive government failings…but that didn’t make the headline.

https://news.sky.com/story/man-who-t...anned-13192687

So it does seem tonight's big riots didn't happen.

I wonder if the stories of convictions have repressed them and it will start to calm down. The weather is good at the weekend so that might cause some of them to come out again.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Hits out at rioters ……….and successive government failings…but that didn’t make the headline.

https://news.sky.com/story/man-who-t...anned-13192687

Headlines are not a summary of the article. They're there to get you to read on or click on the article.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Damien

I wonder if the stories of convictions have repressed them.

Or stories of mass riots everywhere was mis-information?

Lot’s of counter-protesters, with no-one to protest against.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Headlines are not a summary of the article. They're there to get you to read on or click on the article.

But if you don’t read the body of the article, which the majority of people won’t, it does skew the narrative.

It wasn’t a one dimensional interview, they chose to propogate just one element of what he said.

The head line could quite easily have been

man who tackled suspected Southport knife attacker hits out at rioters and historical government failings

Would that have been so hard?

Don’t kid me, or yourself , that narratives are pushed by MSM with or without the nod from the Gov/blob.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

But if you don’t read the body of the article, which the majority of people won’t, it does skew the narrative.

It wasn’t a one dimensional interview, they chose to propogate just one element of what he said.

If Sky wished to push a narrative then they could simply not report his criticisms of governments.

The head line could quite easily have been

Would that have been so hard?

Don’t kid me, or yourself , that narratives are pushed by MSM with or without the nod from the Gov/blob.

As I said before, the purpose of a headline is not to summarise an article and also not as you suggest is it written or signed off by No. 10. It's there to sell newspapers or clicks. If additional words in a headline don't increase sales or clicks then why include them?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The purpose of a headline is not to summarise an article and also not as you suggest is it written or signed off by No. 10. It's there to sell newspapers or clicks.

Or push a narrative to the sleeping and malleable masses. You know …nudge them along.

The Nudge unit or behavioural Insights Team (look them up) were front and centre during COVID to frighten the bejesus out of everyone so they would comply with government dictact.

To think that government doesn’t have influence over media is to be naive, or ignorant.

If additional words in a headline don't increase sales or clicks then why include them?

Oh, I don’t know……….the truth? You know journalistic integrity, holding governments and institutions to account.

But you have just exemplified the problem………if the masses don’t care or don’t want to know the truth, then why include accurate headlines?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Damien

So it does seem tonight's big riots didn't happen.

I wonder if the stories of convictions have repressed them and it will start to calm down. The weather is good at the weekend so that might cause some of them to come out again.

A lot of gutted keyboard warriors this morning, devastated that more trouble didn't happen. Well done to the peaceful counter protestors, who are thankfully are the majority. The Govt have handled this well.

They'll be quite a few with lengthy prison sentences a lot of them caught by their own social media video footage. Incredibly dense of them , we really do need to improve education in this country.

[papa smurf]

looks like protesters pulled a fast one last night ,drawing out thousands of anti protest supporters to areas where nothing happened,panic sets in as soon as the false info hits social media,will people be on the streets every time someone posts false info ,if so it still takes up police time and resorces.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mr K

A lot of gutted keyboard warriors this morning, devastated that more trouble didn't happen. Well done to the peaceful counter protestors, who are thankfully are the majority. The Govt have handled this well.

They'll be quite a few with lengthy prison sentences a lot of them caught by their own social media video footage. Incredibly dense of them , we really do need to improve education in this country.

I only heard interviews with two rioters. One blamed immigrants for his lack of a job but admitted he'd been in jail for GBH. There did seem to be a good number of people arrested with previous convictions which suggests the prison service has been unsuccessful in getting people back to work, which we know anyway. It's not an overnight thing but I was heartened by the appointment of James Timpson as Prisons Minister given his background in getting offenders back to work at his family business.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I only heard interviews with two rioters. One blamed immigrants for his lack of a job but admitted he'd been in jail for GBH. There did seem to be a good number of people arrested with previous convictions which suggests the prison service has been unsuccessful in getting people back to work, which we know anyway. It's not an overnight thing but I was heartened by the appointment of James Timpson as Prisons Minister given his background in getting offenders back to work at his family business.

This is an old interview repackaged. I saw it before the election.

[1701-e]

https://x.com/JohnOBrennan2/status/1...ybeNk1Ixg&s=19. This guy is just unbelievable.