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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
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Your callous disregard for human life is despicable, OB.
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I am not disregarding the impact of this on human life, jfman. My point was that civilians in Gaza voted in Hamas against Fatah in the first place. They knew what they stood for.
I don’t know what you expect Israel to do when they are continually being attacked by Hamas, who hide out amongst the civilian population. One thing is for sure, if it was Britain being attacked in this way, we wouldn’t stand for it either.
You and I would be rightly criticising our government in that situation if they just pussy-footed around in a situation like this.
The Israelies have advised civilians to move to the border area in the south to avoid the retaliation - what else can they be expected to do?
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15-10-2023, 16:40
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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
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The Israelies have advised civilians to move to the border area in the south to avoid the retaliation - what else can they be expected to do?
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Not bomb them when they're moving
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15-10-2023, 17:08
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Re: Hamas Israel War
Based on demographics - the last election being in 2006 - the proportion of the current population old enough to have voted in that election, turnout and those that voted for other parties some 7% of the current population could have voted for Hamas.
To punish people who weren’t even born then for a decision made seventeen years ago by other people is preposterous. A preposterous war crime at that.
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15-10-2023, 17:40
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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
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I am not disregarding the impact of this on human life, jfman. My point was that civilians in Gaza voted in Hamas against Fatah in the first place. They knew what they stood for.
I don’t know what you expect Israel to do when they are continually being attacked by Hamas, who hide out amongst the civilian population. One thing is for sure, if it was Britain being attacked in this way, we wouldn’t stand for it either.
You and I would be rightly criticising our government in that situation if they just pussy-footed around in a situation like this.
The Israelies have advised civilians to move to the border area in the south to avoid the retaliation - what else can they be expected to do?
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No, they didn’t…
The last elections that were held in the Palestinian Territories (which includes the Gaza Strip and the West Bank) in 2006, and Hamas won a majority (44%) of the vote, and then a Fatah-Hamas Coalition Government was formed. The following year, Hamas seized power in the Gaza Strip, and there have been no elections there since.
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15-10-2023, 17:56
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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
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Not bomb them when they're moving
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No, that’s the trade mark of Hamas.
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Based on demographics - the last election being in 2006 - the proportion of the current population old enough to have voted in that election, turnout and those that voted for other parties some 7% of the current population could have voted for Hamas.
To punish people who weren’t even born then for a decision made seventeen years ago by other people is preposterous. A preposterous war crime at that.
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The point is, Hamas is in charge, just as Hitler was in charge of Germany.
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15-10-2023, 17:58
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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
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The families in Gaza need to suck on that.
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15-10-2023, 18:33
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Re: Hamas Israel War
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The thread title has changed because events have progressed and the discussion no longer relates only to the initial Hamas terrorist attack.
Individual posts can be given a bespoke title, otherwise they may display a title relating to the post they are replying to.
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15-10-2023, 18:39
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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
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No, that’s the trade mark of Hamas.
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I realise you've got form for not paying attention in this thread but hamas hasn't told anyone to leave and then bombed them repeatedly
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The point is, Hamas is in charge, just as Hitler was in charge of Germany.
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The point changes everytime you get proven wrong, literally what's the point...
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15-10-2023, 18:51
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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
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No, that’s the trade mark of Hamas.
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No .... that was Israel. Pay attention.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67114281
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15-10-2023, 19:41
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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
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Originally Posted by Hugh
No, they didn’t…
The last elections that were held in the Palestinian Territories (which includes the Gaza Strip and the West Bank) in 2006, and Hamas won a majority (44%) of the vote, and then a Fatah-Hamas Coalition Government was formed. The following year, Hamas seized power in the Gaza Strip, and there have been no elections there since.
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44% voting for an ISIS-like terrorist organisation is very telling as to the mindset of Palestinians living in Gaza.
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I realise you've got form for not paying attention in this thread but hamas hasn't told anyone to leave and then bombed them repeatedly
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I agree that Hamas has not told anyone to leave.
Israel says it didn’t bomb people who followed their advice.
Go figure.
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15-10-2023, 19:44
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Re: Hamas Israel War
Hamas told everyone to stay (and get bombed).
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15-10-2023, 19:45
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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
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Israel advised them to leave. They claim not to have carried out that attack. It would have been stupid of them to do so.
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15-10-2023, 19:45
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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
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44% voting for an ISIS-like terrorist organisation is very telling as to the mindset of Palestinians living in Gaza.
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Not telling of the majority 56% is it? (who will kop it anyway).
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15-10-2023, 19:47
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Re: Hamas Israel War
Yes, well people say that when they analyse the voting figures at elections. The ruling party rarely gets anywhere near 50% of the vote.
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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
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44% voting for an ISIS-like terrorist organisation is very telling as to the mindset of Palestinians living in Gaza.
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I agree that Hamas has not told anyone to leave.
Israel says it didn’t bomb people who followed their advice.
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It was 44% of those voting in the Palestinian Authority (Gaza & the West Bank) - and since 65% of the current Gaza Strip population is under 25, they definitely didn’t vote for them…
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