04-04-2010, 18:15
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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Originally Posted by marky
Has anybody here been fox hunting or just read stuff.. ....would you want revenge?
E.G If a local dog was breaking into childrens rabbit hutches..
Seeing that foxes are wild then the only option is to hunt them and kill them.
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I have followed this thread for a while, but have avoided contributing, as I am sure many already know my feelings on the subject. But I felt that it was time I at least anwsered this.
I have witnessed many hunts and can assure you there is little here that is exaggerated. Foxes are torn apart in a bloody frenzy, the animal is often not kiolled outright and can take minutes to die, especially if the huntmaster is particularly cruel. Foxes kill to eat, not just for now, but to store for later. The free range chickens around here are secured enough that there hasn't been an attack for at least three years. If a dog was killing pets, it wouldn't be chased around the estate by hounds and berks on horse back.
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The pro-hunters need to make up their minds. It is either pest control, security or revenge. But I have never heard one of them admit to the real reason and that is for the fun of it. If, as has been suggested, it is for revenge, I can only imagine the mental state of those carrying out such a barbaric punishment on an animal who knows no better.
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04-04-2010, 19:05
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Grumpy Fecker
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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Originally Posted by marky
Has anybody here been fox hunting or just read stuff ?
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I have in my younger years attended many hunts but as a hunt saboteur, I also ended up in front of the judge over it after i defended myself from an idiot with a whip who attacked me.
And btw i would do it again tomorrow if i was fitter and younger
Fox hunting is a barbaric sport which is purely for the enjoyment of the so called adults that attend them.
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05-04-2010, 21:37
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cf.mega poster
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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Originally Posted by Flyboy
The pro-hunters need to make up their minds. It is either pest control, security or revenge. But I have never heard one of them admit to the real reason and that is for the fun of it. If, as has been suggested, it is for revenge, I can only imagine the mental state of those carrying out such a barbaric punishment on an animal who knows no better.
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a topic we agree on
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05-04-2010, 21:39
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Grumpy Fecker
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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Originally Posted by rogermevans
a topic we agree on 
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Strange i said the same thing
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05-04-2010, 21:44
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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Originally Posted by Sirius
Strange i said the same thing 
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i'm freaked out
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05-04-2010, 23:18
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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06-04-2010, 08:25
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
I'm sure Horse hunting will soon be a sport, the damn things run wild and kill everything in there path (Cows do the same) 
As for 'Foxes only kill to eat' Get a life, they kill everything then take one.
Its one of the only animals that enjoy killing, they will do it even if they dont want food.
I think town folk should get out more
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06-04-2010, 10:09
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
How many times does it have to be explained that a Fox will cache everything it kills if left alone? It's an opportunist, it would come back for the rest but usually it doesn't get the opportunity because by then the deed has been discovered by the owner & the carcasses removed. I think country folk should read more about animal behaviour.
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06-04-2010, 11:00
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Grumpy Fecker
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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Originally Posted by injuneer
How many times does it have to be explained that a Fox will cache everything it kills if left alone? It's an opportunist, it would come back for the rest but usually it doesn't get the opportunity because by then the deed has been discovered by the owner & the carcasses removed. I think country folk should read more about animal behaviour.
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06-04-2010, 12:41
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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
The argument about pest control doesn't stack, and never has really, let's just cut through the bullpoo.
Fox hunting is a sport, a countryside pastime, believed by the great unwashed to be partaken only by the landed gentry, which is the only reason it was banned. Because Labour reckon it is a sport for snobs, a day out for the rich, so Labour must stop the rich having their fun.
Lots of other sports hurt and/or kill animals. Horse racing, greyhound racing (greyhounds are often killed, abandonded when their racing days are over), fishing, Falconry (yes you're allowed to have a captive hawk kill another bird for sport), Ferreting all these without mentioning cruel snares and traps.
All the above, and the government deem it only neccessary to ban hunting with dogs. Falconry is looked upon as an ancient art, a skill and sport with great heritage to be kept alive.
Fox hunting is equally steeped in tradition but apparantly killing a fox with a dog is so much more worse than killing a bird with a hawk.
There's no consistancy. Me? I'm not bothered either way, but if you're going to ban one method of injuring, hunting and killing animals then surely you ban them all? What makes Fox hunting worse than fishing? At least the fox is killed instantly whereas the fish may dangle on the end of a line until it is exhausted and then it may tossed into a net along with a load of other fish where it will usually die slowly.
Is it because fishing is accessible to the common man, more than say foxhunting?
Ban them all or not at all.
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06-04-2010, 16:11
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Grumpy Fecker
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Ban them all or not at all.
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You would not get a argument from me if they did that.
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06-04-2010, 16:19
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
Nor me.
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06-04-2010, 17:27
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
I'd sign up to that.
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13-05-2010, 10:31
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
Post election ... re-opened at the OP's request.
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13-05-2010, 10:33
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#240
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
Ah yes, so called progress, the repeal of the hunting ban.
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