Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

[jem]

Originally Posted by Carth

Has anyone heard from Putin lately, or is he still rolling about on the floor laughing his nuts off?

edit: Am I right in thinking 20:00 EDT is the same as midnight here in the UK?

I might stay up to watch the end of a Civilisation . . or another change of mind when his bluff is called

20:00 EDT is indeed Midnight UTC where UTC is basically the same as GMT. Alas we have moved to British Summer Time now, so you’ll have to wait another hour to see the end of a civilisation - or probably not!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

Has anyone heard from Putin lately, or is he still rolling about on the floor laughing his nuts off?

Putin's a bit anxious that his other fan boy, Hungary's Viktor Orban may lose the election. Fortunately JD Vance flew out to Hungary to endorse Orban whilst criticising other countries for interfering.

Originally Posted by Carth

edit: Am I right in thinking 20:00 EDT is the same as midnight here in the UK?

I might stay up to watch the end of a Civilisation . . or another change of mind when his bluff is called

1am UK time I believe.

Will Trump Taco?

Donald Trump has walked himself into a "very, very tight corner" with his latest comments on Iran, military analyst Professor Michael Clarke says.

He tells presenter Barbara Serra that he believes Trump could try to back down from his threats against Iran that a "whole civilisation will die tonight".

But Clarke says history does not necessarily suggest a climbdown will come - pointing out that Trump pressed ahead with his military operation in Venezuela in January after building up a sizeable force.

"They tend to press the go button rather than the go home button," he adds.

Secondly, Clarke says the increased strikes across Iran today (which have targeted railway bridges and Kharg Island) might suggest that "somebody has gone early".

"Why would the Americans do that? Unless the Israelis are trying to bounce the Americans into going early, which is plausible," Clarke adds.

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-...-news-13509565

[1andrew1]

Ok, looks like he Tacod, postponed for two weeks.
https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-...-news-13509565

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Putin's a bit anxious that his other fan boy, Hungary's Viktor Orban may lose the election. Fortunately JD Vance flew out to Hungary to endorse Orban whilst criticising other countries for interfering.


1am UK time I believe.

Will Trump Taco?


https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-...-news-13509565

TACO* Tuesday…

https://wapo.st/4mhPzqk

Trump agrees to suspend attacks for ‘two weeks’ if Iran opens Strait of Hormuz

Amid threats to bomb civilian infrastructure, the president said he had received a 10-point proposal from Iran that formed a “workable basis” for continued negotiations.

Just 90 minutes before President Donald Trump’s 8 p.m. deadline to “wipe out a whole civilization” with massive strikes on Iran’s energy infrastructure and bridges, he granted a two-week extension for diplomacy to continue.

“Subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz,” Trump said on social media, “I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks.”

Trump said his decision was in response to an appeal from Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, whose government has been serving as mediator between the United States and Iran.

“Diplomatic efforts for peaceful settlement are progressing steadily,” Sharif said in a post on social media. “I earnestly request President Trump to extend the deadline for two weeks.”

At the same time, Sharif asked Iran to open the Strait of Hormuz for the same period “as a goodwill gesture. We also urge all warring parties to observe a ceasefire everywhere for two weeks to allow diplomacy to achieve a conclusive termination of the war, in the interest of long-term peace and stability in the region.”

In his own post, Trump said that his reasoning was “that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives and are very far along with a definitive Agreement concerning Longterm PEACE with Iran.”

He said that a 10-point proposal received from Iran was a “workable basis on which to negotiate” and that two weeks would “allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated.”

Trump added, “This will be a double-sided CEASEFIRE!”

There was no immediate comment from Tehran, and it was not clear whether or how either side had altered what appeared to be mutually exclusive demands.

*thankfully

Originally Posted by Carth

Has anyone heard from Putin lately, or is he still rolling about on the floor laughing his nuts off

Hes still laughing his nuts off.
Probably a little concern in the back of his mind that Trump is so far off his rocker now he may do something (else) stupid that will affect him.

The more senile he gets, the less control Putin will have over him.