03-03-2018, 19:35
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Re: Brexit discussion
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So you prefer to believe Murdoch and his boys? I thought you wanted rid of him!
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03-03-2018, 20:01
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Yes, but he’ll have Alzheimer’s by then and he’ll be away with the fairies.
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l doubt it as l suspect his brain will still be sharper then yours.
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03-03-2018, 20:08
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Re: Brexit discussion
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So you prefer to believe Murdoch and his boys? I thought you wanted rid of him!
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Sky News is regulated by Ofcom unlike newspapers. Never said I wanted rid of him.
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04-03-2018, 08:40
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Re: Brexit discussion
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...MCNEWEML6619I2
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Tory hopes of uniting the party behind Theresa May’s latest vision for Brexit faded as former deputy prime minister Michael Heseltine dismissed her latest speech as just more “phrases, generalisations and platitudes” which had done nothing to make a deal more likely.
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Well so much for uniting everyone.
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04-03-2018, 08:48
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Re: Brexit discussion
A party riven by deep disunity with a weakened leader being led by others sadly...
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04-03-2018, 10:30
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
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You would have had to be smoking a rather strong brand of cigarette to have believed it would have done. Some sheep did but they're now seeing the reality.
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A party riven by deep disunity with a weakened leader being led by others sadly...
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I don't envy her next week when the EU again reminds her of her impossible demands.
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04-03-2018, 11:40
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Re: Brexit discussion
Calling people you disagree with ‘sheep’ is inappropriate, whichever your political views.
If you can’t agree on something, there’s no need to be insulting - if you have to be abusive, your argument is weak.
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04-03-2018, 12:08
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Calling people you disagree with ‘sheep’ is inappropriate, whichever your political views.
If you can’t agree on something, there’s no need to be insulting - if you have to be abusive, your argument is weak.
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Sorry, reading it back it can give that impression which I didn't intend it to, I apologise for this. I also agree with the rest of your post.
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Interesting allegations in the papers today
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Theresa May’s chief of staff Gavin Barwell ‘tried to kneecap Boris Johnson’
Theresa May’s closest aide was drawn into a cabinet row last night amid claims that he had tried to “kneecap” Boris Johnson by leaking a letter the foreign secretary had written about Brexit plans for the Irish border.
Gavin Barwell, the Downing Street chief of staff, was forced to deny passing the document to Sky News last week. Johnson appeared to say in the letter that there may need to be a “hard border” between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. That contradicts the prime minister’s policy.
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...nson-2wp5sgzs2
See also http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rder-memo.html
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04-03-2018, 14:56
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Re: Brexit discussion
Brexit isn't the problem. It's all the political infighting that is, Cameron created a political crap storm then did one. He should really be held accountable for his actions
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04-03-2018, 18:35
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Brexit isn't the problem. It's all the political infighting that is, Cameron created a political crap storm then did one. He should really be held accountable for his actions
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I don't know. At least Cameron exposed the lie that the UK actually had a say in the direction of the EU.He presented a set of really straight forward and positive reforms and they sent him packing.
At least that woke a few people up on this side of the North Sea.
Unfortunately some heavy sleepers still haven't woken up
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04-03-2018, 18:56
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Brexit isn't the problem. It's all the political infighting that is, Cameron created a political crap storm then did one. He should really be held accountable for his actions
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The trouble is, whilst Cameron handled the referendum badly, the Conservative Party (and Labour) was heavily divided on the issue. He thought he could solve party divisions once and for all with a referendum.
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04-03-2018, 18:59
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Re: Brexit discussion
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The trouble is, whilst Cameron handled the referendum badly, the Conservative Party (and Labour) was heavily divided on the issue. He thought he could solve party divisions once and for all with a referendum.
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Sadly none of that has transpired even 20 months after the referendum.
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04-03-2018, 19:06
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Sadly none of that has transpired even 20 months after the referendum.
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Agreed. If anything it's worsened them.
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04-03-2018, 20:01
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Re: Brexit discussion
It would help the situation if the EU played ball a bit. We all know they need trade as much as we do. We could possibly be worse off till we can push for trade world wide but the EU will take an impact out of this also. Especially with America playing hard ball on trade at the min.
The economy for italy isn't that great either. The problem is a lot of money is floating around the EU but doesn't seem to be doing much in terms of a healthy economy for any country in the EU
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04-03-2018, 20:23
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Re: Brexit discussion
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I don't know. At least Cameron exposed the lie that the UK actually had a say in the direction of the EU.He presented a set of really straight forward and positive reforms and they sent him packing.:
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He still, like every other living Prime Minister, recommended we Remain.
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