President Trump 2.0

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Just read that two people fatally shot by UK police in 2024/25 and 1,280 in the US. If you scaled up the UK figures to take account of the population size it would be ten in the UK.

And your point is?

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Think I saw it on here and was just taking the posters word or perhaps interpreting what was posted incorrectly, either way professionals shouldn't be using phones, they should be properly equipped, wonder why they werent?

Saw this on twitter earlier, not sure if its true or accurate, suspect it might be but am suspicious by nature when convenient things just appear...



From Title 1, U.S. DOJ Policy on Use of Force:

"Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless:

(1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle;

or

(2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury ... and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle."

Deliberately stepping into the path of a moving vehicle is classic officer-created jeopardy and fatally undermines any claim that the subsequent use of deadly force was necessary

AGAIN, he didn't step in front. Just as the window on the opposite side of the road didn't "step in front". Either way he wasn't walking across the front, he was facing towards her. Turning and then moving would've taken more time and still risk being hit. The time frames and distances involved were much to small to do anything else. The officer at the side was ALSO in danger.
Remember you have to take off a quarter of second of any times, just for visual reaction delay. Then further take off the time to make a decision and the time to move. After his 20 years in border Patrol and ICE, the simplest and automatic solution would be to shoot.
He wasn't the other side of the road, he was in the same lane as the car. You can see the lane marking behind him.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by nomadking

AGAIN, he didn't step in front. Just as the window on the opposite side of the road didn't "step in front". Either way he wasn't walking across the front, he was facing towards her. Turning and then moving would've taken more time and still risk being hit. The time frames and distances involved were much to small to do anything else. The officer at the side was ALSO in danger.
Remember you have to take off a quarter of second of any times, just for visual reaction delay. Then further take off the time to make a decision and the time to move. After his 20 years in border Patrol and ICE, the simplest and automatic solution would be to shoot.
He wasn't the other side of the road, he was in the same lane as the car. You can see the lane marking behind him.

Interesting, I was more interested in this bit which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle."

Originally Posted by Pierre

She was 100% Responsible for her own death.

That's obviously complete nonsense, you are clearly 100% here just to troll, dont bother further.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by nomadking

AGAIN, he didn't step in front. Just as the window on the opposite side of the road didn't "step in front". Either way he wasn't walking across the front, he was facing towards her. Turning and then moving would've taken more time and still risk being hit. The time frames and distances involved were much to small to do anything else. The officer at the side was ALSO in danger.
Remember you have to take off a quarter of second of any times, just for visual reaction delay. Then further take off the time to make a decision and the time to move. After his 20 years in border Patrol and ICE, the simplest and automatic solution would be to shoot.
He wasn't the other side of the road, he was in the same lane as the car. You can see the lane marking behind him.

He literally broke both those rules. He walked all the way around the vehicle and he shot at a vehicle that was moving. You only have to see the bullet hole to know he was in no danger at all, the front left corner of the car is where he stood when he fired the first shot so it was already moving to the right and NOT being driven at him and was barely 3-5mph if even that. Next two shots went in the side window. Again there was ZERO need as vehicle had already gone passed him.

Same for the officer that attempted to open her door, no danger.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

And your point is?

This lack of respect for human life seems to go beyond just this tragic killing.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

This lack of respect for human life seems to go beyond just this tragic killing.

Dont bother, he's left the building.