[Merged] Football talk - Page 151

nffc · 10-01-2005, 17:52

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o...k...a...y...

sherer · 10-01-2005, 17:58

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I'll say this - on wednesday United have got NO chance. As much as I would love to see us wipe that smug grin off Jose's face, we simply do not have enough talent in our League Cup team to take on Chelsea's 1st OR reserve team - the latter being as good as most mid-table premiership sides. Our only hope is if SAF fields a full strength team but I can't see him risking the all big boys for a trophy he doesn't take all that seriously in the first place.

yes Fergie has never lost a domestic semi final in England and this looks like being the first one. Chelsea are too strong they have a first 11 of top players and a second eleven of top players.. our resolves are Bellion, Eagles, Phil Nev etc and aren't good enough

nffc · 10-01-2005, 18:15

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Originally Posted by sherer

yes Fergie has never lost a domestic semi final in England and this looks like being the first one. Chelsea are too strong they have a first 11 of top players and a second eleven of top players.. our resolves are Bellion, Eagles, Phil Nev etc and aren't good enough

Play the best side available then...

At Forest we don't really have a squad. Alex Ferguson should be thankful he does.

sherer · 12-01-2005, 10:43

Interesting comments on the state of football and agents by Simon Jordan of Palace

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"We wanted to offer Wayne a new contract because we see him as still learning his trade and playing in a team where he can grow and become a player, rather than a potential player, with a manager that can help him with that. We offered him what was, probably, one of the most lucrative contracts that a teenage player can be offered.

"I spoke to him direct because he's our player and if he wants to pass it on to his agent then that's his prerogative.

"We were told by Wayne's agent, Paul Stretford, via [director of football] Bob Dowie, that this player will not be signing for the club and it would not matter what we put in front of him, how much or when.

"Wayne seems to have followed this through with a discussion with Iain Dowie illustrating that, possibly, he wants to move on to what he perceives as a bigger club with better players."

Jordan continued on Sky Sports News: "The question is, how in God's name does an agent, whose primary motivation is his own gain, succeed in achieving a divide between a player and a club that has had the boy for eight years and looked after him and his family?

"We've given Wayne his opportunity and given him every support and encouragement. How does someone like that build this level of influence over the player?

"I think the player has to take some responsibility in the whole equation because he is not a silly boy - most of these boys know their own minds."

all the agents are really interested in is just getting a bigger cut of any money the player can make.. Same with Carroll at Man U who's agent has told him he can get a better deal even if it means he goes to a smaller club and might not even play as many games..

gazzae · 12-01-2005, 11:00

I saw that on SSN last night, Jordan had a right go about how they looked after Routledge and his mother over the last years. He was furious!

I agree about agents the majority just want to get the most money they can but getting players unsettled so that they move.

gazzae · 12-01-2005, 12:37

This is something else I don't get....

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Leeds United's highly-rated keeper Scott Carson is set to sign for Chelsea, report BBC Radio Leeds.
The England Under-21 international is understood to have held initial talks and could complete a move before the end of the week.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ea/4167973.stm

Why would you sign for Chelsea when you will be behind Cudichini and Chec? Is it just a money thing? Petr Chec is only 22/23 so its not like the position will become free in a few years. I'd rather play in the Championship for less wages that sit on Chelsea reserves for more.

Unless Chelsea are planning to sell Cudichini. Fergie, if you do decide to sign any keeper this season make sure its Cudichini!!!

Nugget · 12-01-2005, 12:44

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it's getting a bit tiresome though, man u this, arsenal this, blah blah, most of the country don't care...<snip>

Actually, as a die-hard Villa, fan, I'd have to disagree with that - Man U and Arsenal are probably the most widely supported teams in England (particularly Man U - I know all of the jokes about all of the supporters living in Surrey etc, but it's not too wide of the mark). As a result of their successes, rightly or wrongly, they are very well supported - it'd be interesting to do a poll of who on here supports which team, as I think it'd show that the national support of these two would probably be reflected here.

nffc · 12-01-2005, 13:02

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Originally Posted by Nugget

Actually, as a die-hard Villa, fan, I'd have to disagree with that - Man U and Arsenal are probably the most widely supported teams in England (particularly Man U - I know all of the jokes about all of the supporters living in Surrey etc, but it's not too wide of the mark). As a result of their successes, rightly or wrongly, they are very well supported - it'd be interesting to do a poll of who on here supports which team, as I think it'd show that the national support of these two would probably be reflected here.

Yes it would- but which ten teams would you include?

Graham F · 12-01-2005, 13:08

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Actually, as a die-hard Villa, fan, I'd have to disagree with that - Man U and Arsenal are probably the most widely supported teams in England (particularly Man U - I know all of the jokes about all of the supporters living in Surrey etc, but it's not too wide of the mark). As a result of their successes, rightly or wrongly, they are very well supported - it'd be interesting to do a poll of who on here supports which team, as I think it'd show that the national support of these two would probably be reflected here.

Bloody glory hunters

same with all the Liverpool supporters there were when i was growing up

fcuks me off

No doubt some bright spark will acuse me of being a glory hunter as well

Edit - nffc i can quite safely say that forest won't be one of them

Nugget · 12-01-2005, 13:12

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Yes it would- but which ten teams would you include?

Well, I know that somebody will correct me if I'm wrong (

), but I think a poll can have up to 20 options so, working on that principle, it'd be a case of starting with the Premiership teams (and yes, I am aware that there's a large amount of non-Premiership fans here as well

)

To make it completely fair, all 92 league teams would have to be included - dunno if it would be worth starting a thread so people could say who their team is or not (might be a little tricky to keep up with), but I'll have a think about it. What does anybody else reckon?

Graham F · 12-01-2005, 13:14

What about the exeter fans among us though?!?

gazzae · 12-01-2005, 13:15

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Originally Posted by Graham F

Bloody glory hunters

same with all the Liverpool supporters there were when i was growing up

fcuks me off

No doubt some bright spark will acuse me of being a glory hunter as well

Edit - nffc i can quite safely say that forest won't be one of them

Not all supports are glory hunters. But I admit some are, same with Arsenal now, I work with a guy who never used to be interesed in football, but he got interested in it last season. Guess who he supports.

Nugget · 12-01-2005, 13:16

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Not all supports are glory hunters. But I admit some are, same with Arsenal now, I work with a guy who never used to be interesed in football, but he got interested in it last season. Guess who he supports.

Kidderminster Harriers?

nffc · 12-01-2005, 14:08

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Originally Posted by Nugget

Well, I know that somebody will correct me if I'm wrong (

), but I think a poll can have up to 20 options so, working on that principle, it'd be a case of starting with the Premiership teams (and yes, I am aware that there's a large amount of non-Premiership fans here as well

)

To make it completely fair, all 92 league teams would have to be included - dunno if it would be worth starting a thread so people could say who their team is or not (might be a little tricky to keep up with), but I'll have a think about it. What does anybody else reckon?

well if you could have 20 in a poll, you'd pick the top 19 Prem teams and a further option for "other- please state" and then any team could be included.

gazzae · 12-01-2005, 14:11

What about Irish Premier league

Can we have an option for my local team - Lisburn Distillery?