[Merged] Manchester Proxies. - Page 15

th'engineer · 21-03-2004, 21:47

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Originally Posted by JustAnotherN00b

Please don't do that, you end up with overload somewhere else. If people are going to find the addresses for Baguley they'll need to consult the list anyway and it's a lot better if people pick them kinda randomly (without any being suggested).

Anyone who has any kind of trouble even totally unrelated to proxies may read that post and pile onto Baguley and pretty soon Baguley is far from ok - it's a relatively small site for number of caches (4 of them) and a majority will pile onto cache1, then those in Baguley will start to play musical caches.

The fact is the majority of caches are ok the majority of the time, even specifying one of the Manchester caches will improve service if only one of them is having strife.

I take you comments on board but if the software that balances does not seem to be working i have no other option but to specify a proxy.

Even that advice comes from swansea to specify one that works.

I realise its going to change the load calcuations but all i want is a working service

Ignition · 21-03-2004, 21:55

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Originally Posted by th'engineer

I take you comments on board but if the software that balances does not seem to be working i have no other option but to specify a proxy.

Even that advice comes from swansea to specify one that works.

I realise its going to change the load calcuations but all i want is a working service

Fine, my concern was more with suggeseting a particular one, the vast majority are working fine at any particular time, and it's a fact that if you suggest a site most will go onto cache1 or cache4. (first and last in Baguley). By all means sidestep, that I'm not fussed about - if they were working properly in the first place there'd be no need to so I'd hope no-one can complain too much about you doing that.

BBKing · 21-03-2004, 22:02

Why not specify a local one first? It's closer/faster and doesn't overload someone else's area (just adds extra content on the one you specify and slows it down, but still).

th'engineer · 22-03-2004, 09:30

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Originally Posted by BBKing

Why not specify a local one first? It's closer/faster and doesn't overload someone else's area (just adds extra content on the one you specify and slows it down, but still).

Would it not be better to get the NTL loading software working than have customers having to specify their own proxy.

Would it not be better to find out why this happens in the North West only, are there any other parts of the NW east region infrastructure that cause this.

Is it because the majority of people are STB as opposed to SACM.

Please take the above as suggestions for improvement of the service not
criticism of the service, it was right before the proxies have been introduced.

To add to the above my lads pings have gone through the roof on gaming since introduction i know not related but are you sure it can not be an effect of the introduction

iadom · 22-03-2004, 09:38

Steve, is it any specifics sites, I don't seem to have any problems at all.

BTW, AllNettools is now detecting my proxy once more. seem to be going through cache 10 according to them, yet when I use the link in Pem's post it still comes up as cache 9.

th'engineer · 22-03-2004, 10:01

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Originally Posted by iadom

Steve, is it any specifics sites, I don't seem to have any problems at all.

BTW, AllNettools is now detecting my proxy once more. seem to be going through cache 10 according to them, yet when I use the link in Pem's post it still comes up as cache 9.

specific sites

Google
Autotrader
Ebay
Nthellworld.co.uk
Ntlworld.com
Numion.com
Any other that is used without specifying at proxy

BBKing · 22-03-2004, 10:08

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Would it not be better to get the NTL loading software working than have customers having to specify their own proxy.

Yes.

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Would it not be better to find out why this happens in the North West only, are there any other parts of the NW east region infrastructure that cause this.

I've seen reports from elsewhere, but most of the ntl network has been cached for a while, NW has just been turned back on.

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Is it because the majority of people are STB as opposed to SACM.

The majority of *devices* are STB, but the broadband numbers will be almost equal by now and SACM may be in the lead. In any case this is true for the whole of the ex-CWC area.

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To add to the above my lads pings have gone through the roof on gaming since introduction i know not related but are you sure it can not be an effect of the introduction

I'm sure it can't be an effect of the introduction. Propose a mechanism for how layer 4 TCP port-based redirection can affect ICMP or UDP.

Also last time you posted a trace your pings looked fine to me, and I've checked your UBR and as usual it's top-notch.

th'engineer · 22-03-2004, 10:20

BBK,

1. when using non specified proxy browsing slow, page does not refresh or load properley

2. When specifying Man proxy browsing slow page does not refresh or load properley.

3. When specifying othe non manc such as baguley or winnerish browsing is better. but have to keep changing proxy when it gets slow.

4. When proxies not working browsing good page does refresh and load properley
List of sites available in previous posts

BBKing · 22-03-2004, 10:30

Thanks for that Steve.

When specifying one of the Manchester proxies, do you go right through the card from 1 to 10 and try all those sites on all of them? If certain of them are playing up that would spot it.

iadom · 22-03-2004, 10:39

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Originally Posted by th'engineer

specific sites

Google
Autotrader
Ebay
Nthellworld.co.uk
Ntlworld.com
Numion.com
Any other that is used without specifying at proxy

Checked all of them, everyone loaded in seconds, the Numion.com was so fast it seemed as though it loaded before I hit "Enter"

I have not had to specify a proxy since they came back on. IP/DNS both set to "automatically obtain"

PS, AllNettools is now reporting "No proxy" again, very unreliable ATM.

th'engineer · 22-03-2004, 19:19

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Originally Posted by BBKing

Thanks for that Steve.

When specifying one of the Manchester proxies, do you go right through the card from 1 to 10 and try all those sites on all of them? If certain of them are playing up that would spot it.

Just got home tried connecting to ntlworld with none specified would not even come up specifying another proxy in the baguley range its working

freeair · 22-03-2004, 22:33

Things have been bad here in Stockport for over a week with Saturday being particularly bad. Sunday was even worse, I gave up Sunday evening.

This evening I have spent almost 3 hours trying the access the web.
With no settings in IE no web access at all.
Try a random MAN cache I might connect for about 2 minutes then no connection.
I have even tried 2 INKTOMI proxies suggested on Saturday evening without any joy.

Last evening I even lost lost the default gateway twice.

This evening I've had to reboot the STB twice to get any connection (renew didn't work), been through at least 12 proxies and ended up on a Middlesbrough which seems to be working OK, touch wood.

I thought things had been going well for too long for it to last

th'engineer · 23-03-2004, 02:35

I think you will find that a lot of people are doing the proxy dance going round the country trying to find a working proxy or two.

Please report your problems to NTL at local and swansea level.

If enough people report it we might get something done

pedantic · 23-03-2004, 15:55

Hi

I too have been troubled since the proxy servers were turned back on. During peak times they are very sluggish for me, and to be honest not that great during off peak times

As a user of yahoo messenger and chat I have noticed that when trying to profile another user the page fails to display when being transparently cached. I decided to investigate this further, and found that by explicitly specifying my browser to use each of the manchester proxy servers using port 8080, I could then access profiles on everyone EXCEPT cache3-mant.server.ntli.net

It's therefore safe to assume that when being transparently cached, ntl are directing me through cache3 and hence why I'm not able to bring up the profiles page. I've also had some of the problems other people have been having with other sites (ebay and nthellworld) loading very slowly, or in the case of ebay, timing out. Could cache3 be the problem there also ? I've not had the time to test as yet.

Regards

The_real_dj · 23-03-2004, 18:42

yep ive been having probs with sites aswell. quite a few 400 bad request errors and im having real problems getting on www.ebay.co.uk could someone else try ebay for us??

Cheer