07-04-2004, 17:23
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Re: Price increase
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Originally Posted by SMHarman
Exactly, I won't be upgrading to 1MB now. That price jump is outragous.
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It most certainly is, it makes the 1 meg service 50% more expensive than the 600k.....
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07-04-2004, 17:25
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#212
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Re: Price increase
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Originally Posted by Neil
You cancel your subscription, & get a new one (& a new Sky box)
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No you don't. Under the terms of the Interactive contract (which is what you sign to get the free box), you are only entitled to one free box per household. Ever. Replacement boxes are around the £200 mark, I believe.
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07-04-2004, 17:25
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Re: Price increase
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Originally Posted by Neil
It most certainly is, it makes the 1 meg service 50% more expensive than the 600k.....
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Serious question (as I am not techy...  )
Do ntl have anything to gain (as far as network performance goes) from people downgrading to 600k?
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07-04-2004, 17:39
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#214
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Re: Price increase
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Originally Posted by orangebird
Serious question (as I am not techy... )
Do ntl have anything to gain (as far as network performance goes) from people downgrading to 600k? |
Yes-Aizad has told me to my face that they don't want the 'bandwidth hoggers' that (he thinks) hog all the bandwidth on the 1 meg service. 
Basically-the ntl network can't cope with the demands that are currently being placed upon it. 
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07-04-2004, 17:42
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Trollsplatter
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Re: Price increase
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Originally Posted by Neil
Yes-Aizad has told me to my face that they don't want the 'bandwidth hoggers' that (he thinks) hog all the bandwidth on the 1 meg service.
Basically-the ntl network can't cope with the demands that are currently being placed upon it.  |
So they think the only reason somene would want 1mb broadband is for warez?
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07-04-2004, 17:42
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Re: Price increase
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Originally Posted by Neil
Yes-Aizad has told me to my face that they don't want the 'bandwidth hoggers' that (he thinks) hog all the bandwidth on the 1 meg service.
Basically-the ntl network can't cope with the demands that are currently being placed upon it. |
Then that is probably the reason for the ridiculous increase in price on 1meg then... 
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07-04-2004, 17:48
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Location: South-East-Cambridge
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Re: Price increase
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Originally Posted by Neil
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Two things are mentioned in this that I do not recall seeing before but NTL claim that the price is held so they must exist...
6p Talk Plan - I assume this is the equivalent of BT Together 1.
Free Voicemail - Is this the equivalent of BT's free 1571?
Are these available in all areas?
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07-04-2004, 18:27
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Re: Price increase
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Originally Posted by towny
So they think the only reason somene would want 1mb broadband is for warez?
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Can they offer a service with the 256k upstream and 600k downstream, thats not something a warez / bandwidth hogger would want is it?
The only reason I wanted to upgrade was to improve my ftp upload speeds. The are no bloody faster than my ISDN line!
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08-04-2004, 00:03
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Re: Price increase
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Originally Posted by Neil
Yes-Aizad has told me to my face that they don't want the 'bandwidth hoggers' that (he thinks) hog all the bandwidth on the 1 meg service.
Basically-the ntl network can't cope with the demands that are currently being placed upon it. |
They better adjust it per-region !
Ive had to check my UBR lately using DOCSDIAG due to crap upstreams. Lately it was fixed - they doubled the upstreams available bandwidth.
Each time I did a UBR check - the downstream was only 1/3 full out of all the instances I checked. These were peak times as well!
Its bad enough that I couldnt connect during peak times, and that they've just SHAFTED lots of customer services jobs, but to increase the cost too?
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08-04-2004, 00:21
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Re: Price increase
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Originally Posted by td444
Its bad enough that I couldnt connect during peak times, and that they've just SHAFTED lots of customer services jobs, but to increase the cost too?
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No doubt to cover the redundancy cost's 
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08-04-2004, 00:39
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Re: Price increase
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Originally Posted by bob_builder
Two things are mentioned in this that I do not recall seeing before but NTL claim that the price is held so they must exist...
6p Talk Plan - I assume this is the equivalent of BT Together 1.
Free Voicemail - Is this the equivalent of BT's free 1571?
Are these available in all areas?
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As far as I know they are
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08-04-2004, 00:46
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Re: Price increase
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Originally Posted by SMHarman
Can they offer a service with the 256k upstream and 600k downstream, thats not something a warez / bandwidth hogger would want is it?
The only reason I wanted to upgrade was to improve my ftp upload speeds. The are no bloody faster than my ISDN line!
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600/256 would be nice.
Only reason I upped my NTL BB to the 1meg service was to have a higher upload for using XBoxLive.
But, as my UBR upstream often sucks, & they've now increased the 1meg service's price, I'm going to go back down to 600k.
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08-04-2004, 00:57
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Re: Price increase
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Originally Posted by Scooby
Yes they are staying the same, even though ntl were going to increase 600k price they saw sense on that one and its staying the same  |
I wonder for how long?
Telewest's 1meg has gone down to £37.99. ..which is the same price that NTL's 1meg has gone up to.
Telewest's 512k BB has also gone down by £2, to £27.99. ..which is still £3 more than NTL's 600k BB.
So....in the run up to the eventual merger, would TW maybe drop that down again to the same price as NTL's 600k, or would NTL increase their 600k by £3 to match the TW price?
Or am I reading too much into the price changes at both companies? 
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08-04-2004, 01:26
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Location: Salford(UK)
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Re: Price increase
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Originally Posted by Tezcatlipoca
Telewest's 512k BB has also gone down by £2, to £27.99. ..which is still £3 more than NTL's 600k BB.
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Not 100% correct. This from there website,
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£25 per month with another Telewest phone service or £27.99 per month when ordered alone
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08-04-2004, 01:31
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Re: Price increase
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Originally Posted by Defiant
Not 100% correct. This from there website,
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Ah, fair enough. Cheers for the info
So it's the "standalone" TW price that's gone down, but the price if you have another service too has stayed the same.
EDIT: Hmm. And TW's 1meg "with another service" price is still £34.99 - it's the standalone TW 1meg price that now matches NTL's new 1meg price.
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