"Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime"

[Derek]

A new low is hit.

http://www.paisleydailyexpress.co.uk...7085-24226288/

6 years (In reality he'll be out before the Olympics) for Murder.

A BRUTAL killer who stabbed a man to death during a street fight was yesterday jailed for six years.
John Paul Sheehan, 22, plunged a knife into Christopher McDowall’s back, inflicting an injury that a consultant surgeon described as one of the most destructive wounds he had ever seen.

Arming yourself with a knife, going out to confront someone and plunging a knife into their back inflicting one of the worst wounds an experienced A&E Doctor has ever seen is OK if you don't intend to kill them.

[Sirius]

Labour are weak on crime tough on the victims of crime.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Derek S

A new low is hit.

http://www.paisleydailyexpress.co.uk...7085-24226288/

6 years (In reality he'll be out before the Olympics) for Murder.



Arming yourself with a knife, going out to confront someone and plunging a knife into their back inflicting one of the worst wounds an experienced A&E Doctor has ever seen is OK if you don't intend to kill them.

Shocking!

When the system is like it is why are we surprised anymore at the low levels some are going too it's not as if there is any real detterent to stop these people. We really do need a serious change in this country because if there isn't one it is going to continue downhill till the point that people will start taking matters into their own hands in the search for justice which is not something i want to see.

[punky]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/8171061.stm

Despite being cautioned twice for the same offence and then being given a 6 month jail service for the 4th office, she goes on to re-offend for a 5th time, and gets.... a 10 month suspended jail sentence.

Honestly, what's the point? I despair at the judgement but also the amount of money gone to get it.

[Mick Fisher]

"Serial Bigamist"

I just couldn't keep a straight face.

Being married once was plenty for me.

[Derek]

There are a few interesting comments on the Magistrates blog right now.

Basically things are in such a state with the prisons that anyone sentenced to 28 days or less in prison gets immediately turfed out with a payment to help get their lives back on track without seeing the inside of a prison. In some cases people sentenced to 4 months also get punted before going through the gates of prison and compensated for having to sit in the back of a prison van.

Who says crime doesn't pay?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Derek S

Who says crime doesn't pay?

Law abiding citizens. and those that tell the kids I know where you live and I'm gonna tell your dad.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Derek S

There are a few interesting comments on the Magistrates blog right now.

Basically things are in such a state with the prisons that anyone sentenced to 28 days or less in prison gets immediately turfed out with a payment to help get their lives back on track without seeing the inside of a prison. In some cases people sentenced to 4 months also get punted before going through the gates of prison and compensated for having to sit in the back of a prison van.

Who says crime doesn't pay?

Now why doesn't any of that surprise me?....

I've been watching UK Border Patrol on Sky lately and it demonstrates perfectly just how cumbersome, wasteful and ineffective parts of our legal 'system' still are despite all those tough talking soundbites issued by numerous Home Secretaries. Vast amounts of time, energy and money spent rounding up illegals only for them to be let go and allowed to abscond because there isn't room to detain them whilst securing the travel documents needed to remove them or whilst they're awaiting the result of appeals... It's absolutely bonkers and is costing us a fortune!!

[Osem]

DPP and Met chiefs concerned about the over use of out of court penalties:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/no...on-crime-theft

Latest figures show that a total of 2.2 million people were cautioned between 2000 and 2008, including more than 550,000 who were given repeat cautions. Of those, 51,874 had been cautioned four times and 104,915 on three occasions.

[Osem]

A teenager who raped a 5 year old boy just a few days after being spared a custodial sentence for another rape has finally been jailed:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-..._Boy_Is_Jailed

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Osem

A teenager who raped a 5 year old boy just a few days after being spared a custodial sentence for another rape has finally been jailed:

They probably had to let someone out early and he had their place.

After watching the panarama program on monday night this government has absolutely no right to ever talk about being tough on crime i was completely disgusted by what i saw.

[punky]

Originally Posted by Gary L

They probably had to let someone out early and he had their place.

Originally Posted by http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8354316.stm

When being sentenced for the first rape, Judge Smith is believed to have considered the victim's family, who forgave the youth because of their Christian beliefs.

[Mick Fisher]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

After watching the panarama program on monday night this government has absolutely no right to ever talk about being tough on crime i was completely disgusted by what i saw.

I felt the same.

I also gained the impression that the fixed penalty system, nowadays, seems to have become more of a REVENUE RAISING exercise with a secondary effect of keeping the prison population down.

Later when watching a report on the News about corrupt Russian Police Officers turning a blind eye upon the acceptance of a bribe I couldn't help see the similarity. The difference being our Police give you a slap on the wrist (turn a blind eye) upon recieving a fine (bribe) on behalf of the State.