Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The president doesn't declare war, Congress does, so it is in fact illegitimate unless whatever this is its not a war, guess he could try calling it a special military operation, it worked for putin did in Ukraine

There may be a US constitutional question, i.e. legitimacy within US law; but there is no doubt that the USA was under threat and attack after the Israeli first strike which, in international terms, legitimises the USA action.


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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Indeed. It's funny how those on the right who criticise Blair for the UK's part in the Iraq War are keen to criticise those who didn't assist Trump in his illegal war on Iran. Party politics before patriotism.

Wake up. Iran had to be stopped in its quest to achieve nuclear capability which the would have used to obliterate Israel.

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Originally Posted by Carth

I'd rather believe Sephiroth than Trump and his Whitehouse minions, at least he doesn't compromise himself by changing his ideas and principles just to look 'more gooder' than he is.

I'd rather believe Carth than Trump as well. I wish I could include Hugh, but he's too careful about sticking to facts!

a handful of recent posts are moved here from the Conservative Party Chronicles thread.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

There may be a US constitutional question, i.e. legitimacy within US law; but there is no doubt that the USA was under threat and attack after the Israeli first strike which, in international terms, legitimises the USA action.


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Wake up. Iran had to be stopped in its quest to achieve nuclear capability which the would have used to obliterate Israel.

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I'd rather believe Carth than Trump as well. I wish I could include Hugh, but he's too careful about sticking to facts!

Not sure if you meant it that way, but thanks for the compliment…

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Not sure if you meant it that way, but thanks for the compliment…

I would chalk it up as a win and ask no questions!

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Not sure if you meant it that way, but thanks for the compliment…

It was a compliment, my way. I do appreciate when you bring the latest facts to the Forum.

And, to remind for the record:

Israel has to protect itself.

Hamas needs to be offed.

Hezbollah, ditto.

Iran - Regime to be offed and its people freed.

That’s not good…

https://wapo.st/3OUfaJg

Russia is providing Iran intelligence to target U.S. forces, officials say


The targeting information has included the locations of American warships and aircraft in the Middle East, the officials said.

Russia is providing Iran with targeting information to attack American forces in the Middle East, the first indication that another major U.S. adversary is participating — even indirectly — in the war, according to three officials familiar with the intelligence.

.The assistance, which has not been previously reported, signals that the rapidly expanding conflict now features one of America’s chief nuclear-armed competitors with exquisite intelligence capabilities.


Since the war began Saturday, Russia has passed Iran the locations of U.S. military assets, including warships and aircraft, said the three officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity.



"It does seem like it’s a pretty comprehensive effort,” one of the people said…

… Analysts said that the sharing of intelligence would fit the pattern of Iran’s strikes against U.S. forces, including command and control infrastructure, radars and temporary structures, like the one in Kuwait where six service members were killed.


The CIA’s station at the U.S. Embassy in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia’s capital, also was struck in recent days.


Iran is “making very precise hits on early warning radars or over-the-horizon radars,” said Dara Massicot, an expert on the Russian military at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. “They’re doing this in a very targeted way. They’re going after command and control,” she added.

[Carth]

If the USA people really were intelligent, they should have expected it and taken measures.

Hands up all of us that thought Russia would just sit quietly and do nothing.

[thenry]

US intelligence fed to Ukraine saw Russian frontline forces being spotted and blown up in a great effort to push Russia back.

I thought Iran had no shame toying with a superior power but Russia is a joke with this move.

Originally Posted by Carth

If the USA people really were intelligent, they should have expected it and taken measures.

Hands up all of us that thought Russia would just sit quietly and do nothing.

Unfortunately, the experienced experts in the US Intelligence Community who did know these things were fired because their viewpoints, based on decades of experience in their fields, did not align with the Donald’s (who, by his own words, knows more than the Generals), so his sycophants who he put in charge fired thousands from the CIA, NSA, FBI, Cyber Command, DNI, etc., who might have pointed out some of the "speed bumps"…

And, strangely enough, Operation Epstein Fury isn’t going the way his sycophants promised it would…

[Sephiroth]

With a bit of luck, Iran is nearly out of missiles and drones.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

With a bit of luck, Iran is nearly out of missiles and drones.

As previously stated, hope is neither a strategy or a plan…

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidha...drone-attacks/

UPDATE: 5th March: CNN reports that “Trump administration officials told lawmakers during a closed-door briefing on Capitol Hill Tuesday that Iran’s Shahed attack drones represent a major challenge and US air defenses will not be able to intercept them all,” as the threat was greater than anticipated.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

As previously stated, hope is neither a strategy or a plan…

I'm the one hoping. The Israelis/Americans should be doing the planning and strategising.

[thenry]

The Arab world left Iran to build stockpile of Arsenal.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I'm the one hoping. The Israelis/Americans should be doing the planning and strategising.

Difficult when you (current USA leadership) fire the experts, or don’t listen to them when their expertise doesn’t support what they (USA leadership) want to believe…

Originally Posted by Hugh

Unfortunately, the experienced experts in the US Intelligence Community who did know these things were fired because their viewpoints, based on decades of experience in their fields, did not align with the Donald’s (who, by his own words, knows more than the Generals), so his sycophants who he put in charge fired thousands from the CIA, NSA, FBI, Cyber Command, DNI, etc., who might have pointed out some of the "speed bumps"…

And, strangely enough, Operation Epstein Fury isn’t going the way his sycophants promised it would…

[Carth]

I've proclaimed my disdain of 'experts' a few times on here, but there's a not so subtle difference between the plethora of 'common & garden' experts, and those who also show some common sense and foresight.

It seems Trump (the Master of etc) prefers the 'common & garden' yes men.