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				So he expresses opinions you think you don't agree with. Don't you think you should listen to see if he makes sense to you? 
			
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			01-06-2019, 13:27
			
			
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				The Tribunal sytem has responded to say that my daughter is on a waiting list for her tribunal for DLA to PIP. 
			
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 I've just got a letter from the DWP.
 
Our daughter's Tribunal has been cancelled.
 
From ZERO points on all descriptors, she has now been raised to 13 for care, and 12 for mobility.
 
Ongoing as her condition will not change.
 
So that's ENHANCED on both parts, backdated to when her DLA was stopped.
 
But then I read it vey carefully, and they have awarded her extra points for being unable to make journeys to FAMILIAR places, but we only said that she had great difficulties with UNFAMILIAR journeys.
 
I feel I should let them know this, as it's either a typo or excessive points have been awarded.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-06-2019, 13:45
			
			
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				I've just got a letter from the DWP. 
 
Our daughter's Tribunal has been cancelled. 
 
From ZERO points on all descriptors, she has now been raised to 13 for care, and 12 for mobility. 
 
Ongoing as her condition will not change. 
 
So that's ENHANCED on both parts, backdated to when her DLA was stopped. 
 
But then I read it vey carefully, and they have awarded her extra points for being unable to make journeys to FAMILIAR places, but we only said that she had great difficulties with UNFAMILIAR journeys. 
 
I feel I should let them know this, as it's either a typo or excessive points have been awarded. 
			
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 Do you need the benefits, did the forms cover every need of your daughter? Have the goalposts moved since DLA. Has she got better or worse since DLA. If you call them and they stop her money will you think it's fair overall? Have they treated you fairly, from being awarded 0 points to start with?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-06-2019, 13:57
			
			
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				I've just got a letter from the DWP. 
 
Our daughter's Tribunal has been cancelled. 
 
From ZERO points on all descriptors, she has now been raised to 13 for care, and 12 for mobility. 
 
Ongoing as her condition will not change. 
 
So that's ENHANCED on both parts, backdated to when her DLA was stopped. 
 
But then I read it vey carefully, and they have awarded her extra points for being unable to make journeys to FAMILIAR places, but we only said that she had great difficulties with UNFAMILIAR journeys. 
 
I feel I should let them know this, as it's either a typo or excessive points have been awarded. 
			
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 I think they are just scared of taking it to tribunal as they'd probably loose so they have awarded that to keep you happy. 
 
My case last year I was short of 2 point to get standard PIP for living. No points at all for travel. 
 
However before the case they called my and said after looking at it again they awarded me standard for both. 
 
I wouldn't call them as it will take longer to have them look at it again.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-06-2019, 14:06
			
			
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			And pleased for you to get the right result must be a huge relief. Sad to hear another case where you can go from 0 points to 25. Something needs to be in place to stop this from happening all too often but sadly we all know nothing will change other than it'll keep happening more and more often.  
 
I'm still waiting to hear back from my ESA assessment as I've asked them for a home assessment with a GP letter to state why. So now back to waiting for the postman for the dreaded letter to arrive. Not that I'm that I should be worried about the assessment as I have all the evidence to back up my claim but it's the hassle and worry when it goes wrong just like the above posts.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-06-2019, 14:18
			
			
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			Also debating contacting the DWP as my health has gotten worse. Bow on more meds and also waiting for a kidney transplant.  
 
I know it will get better once I've had it but still think I should tell them?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I know it will get better once I've had it but still think I should tell them? 
			
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 I personally know a few people who have gone downhill, reported the change, and had PIP stopped altogether until Tribunal gave it back to them.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-06-2019, 23:39
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Taf
					 
				 
				I've just got a letter from the DWP. 
 
Our daughter's Tribunal has been cancelled. 
 
From ZERO points on all descriptors, she has now been raised to 13 for care, and 12 for mobility. 
 
Ongoing as her condition will not change. 
 
So that's ENHANCED on both parts, backdated to when her DLA was stopped. 
 
But then I read it vey carefully, and they have awarded her extra points for being unable to make journeys to FAMILIAR places, but we only said that she had great difficulties with UNFAMILIAR journeys. 
 
I feel I should let them know this, as it's either a typo or excessive points have been awarded. 
			
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 Was it a typo when excessive points were deducted, I'd say nothing and if they ever ask say I hadn't read the letter properly due to relief that the months of stress and torment were over
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			03-06-2019, 11:19
			
			
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				Was it a typo when excessive points were deducted, I'd say nothing and if they ever ask say I hadn't read the letter properly due to relief that the months of stress and torment were over 
			
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 Ignorance is no defence, and the DWP does employ "agents" to monitor and clandestinley record claimants' actions. They even check social media acccounts.
 
I'd rather we stayed honest and legal.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-06-2019, 11:23
			
			
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				Was it a typo when excessive points were deducted, I'd say nothing and if they ever ask say I hadn't read the letter properly due to relief that the months of stress and torment were over 
			
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 That will be likely to be water off a duck's back! You make the assumption that these officials have hearts.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-06-2019, 11:46
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Taf
					 
				 
				I've just got a letter from the DWP. 
 
Our daughter's Tribunal has been cancelled. 
 
From ZERO points on all descriptors, she has now been raised to 13 for care, and 12 for mobility. 
 
Ongoing as her condition will not change. 
 
So that's ENHANCED on both parts, backdated to when her DLA was stopped. 
 
But then I read it vey carefully, and they have awarded her extra points for being unable to make journeys to FAMILIAR places, but we only said that she had great difficulties with UNFAMILIAR journeys. 
 
I feel I should let them know this, as it's either a typo or excessive points have been awarded. 
			
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 Depends on the situation. Eg If the condition is such that somebody can become agitated when out and about anywhere, then they might qualify. The differentiation between familiar and unfamiliar is related to navigating to those places.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-06-2019, 14:13
			
			
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				That will be likely to be water off a duck's back! You make the assumption that these officials have hearts. 
			
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				Nice thing to say about my wife... 
			
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			Its not the staff we should be having a go at as they have to apply the rules that are laid down to them as the problem is with the unwieldy complex system they have to use..
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-06-2019, 16:13
			
			
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				Depends on the situation. Eg If the condition is such that somebody can become agitated when out and about anywhere, then they might qualify. The differentiation between familiar and unfamiliar is related to navigating to those places. 
			
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We applied only for "following the route of UNFAMILIAR journeys" (1d - 10 points), as they are her main mobility problem "on the majority of days". 
 
At times she has problems "following the route of FAMILIAR jouneys" (1f - 12 points) when buses are cancelled, buses change routes, bus stops change, or pedestrian routes are blocked. 
 
That happens a lot in this city when are sporting occasions, pop concerts and demonstrators blocking roads and pathways. Then she definitely needs someone or her satnav to guide her, and help her from becoming overly anxious. But they do not happen "on the majority of days".
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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