Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
12-09-2018, 22:09
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
On cable I suspect they'd average out at 2 SD channels / 1 HD channel. HD seems to average about 6-7 Mb/sec. The standard definition versions of Sky Sports channels are higher than this at one extreme at 8 Mb/sec, others go as low as 1.3 Mb/sec.
I agree each individual channel won't save much space, but 38 of them certainly adds up.
I would imagine that the numbers with SD sets are low - but I suspect the SD only STBs have been withdrawn and there's no technical reason the remaining STBs with scart couldn't downscale the HD variant if this restriction is still in place. There will probably be a point it's more cost effective to give away HDTVs than maintain an SD service if that's the reason!
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13-09-2018, 18:51
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Originally Posted by jfman
https://www.virginmedia.com/shop/bundles/vip.html was the list I used - but I do know that packages change quite regularly and some people remain on old packages. And websites go out of date!
I've had a look into the Tivo/scart issue and can't see any posts about it - presumably something that can be resolved with a software update if it is still an issue? Anyone got a Tivo and a scart cable handy?
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Have a TiVo and use both hdmi and scart lead .so the signal goes to two tv,s .No problems with it at all ,hd works on both TVs clearly only one is in hd but no problems with the picture l get.
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Originally Posted by Raider999
Indie that a couple of weeks ago - no mention how long this free access lasts for either on the website or in the confirmation email.
Also no indication that you are signing up for x months or starting a new 12 month contract with Virgin.
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I was told keep contract ,keep premier .but who knows. With regard to recording pro 14 I use manual and just look at kick off times readly available on the net.Having said that premier repeat the games so many times not really required
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13-09-2018, 19:28
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Originally Posted by jfman
I've had a look into the Tivo/scart issue and can't see any posts about it - presumably something that can be resolved with a software update if it is still an issue? Anyone got a Tivo and a scart cable handy?
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I can't think of any TiVo issue like that. Perhaps someone is thinking about the old Scientific-Atlanta V+?
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13-09-2018, 20:20
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
Thanks itshim for testing, and spiderplant for giving your take on it.
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14-09-2018, 11:01
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
The HD signal works down the Scart cables.
It worked in the Tivo boxes pre V6 box. My son had a scart connecting his old TV to the Tivo and the HD channels worked fine through it. Can't see a reason for not getting rid of the SD channels (that don't have a HD variant) now.
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15-09-2018, 05:41
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
UHD channel 999 EPG is now there.
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15-09-2018, 11:23
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
Virgin TV EPG Updated
The short / long titles are now:
100 Showcase / Virgin TV Highlights
300 Music / New Music On Demand
400 Movies / Virgin Movies & Store
700 Kids / Kids TV On Demand
968 For Parents / A Message For Parents
985 For Parents / A Message For Parents
997 Welcome / Virgin TV For Newbies
998 What's On / Virgin TV Highlights
999 Ultra HD / Virgin TV Ultra HD
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15-09-2018, 12:17
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Originally Posted by SonicMaster
Virgin TV EPG Updated
The short / long titles are now:
100 Showcase / Virgin TV Highlights
300 Music / New Music On Demand
400 Movies / Virgin Movies & Store
700 Kids / Kids TV On Demand
968 For Parents / A Message For Parents
985 For Parents / A Message For Parents
997 Welcome / Virgin TV For Newbies
998 What's On / Virgin TV Highlights
999 Ultra HD / Virgin TV Ultra HD
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On 999 repeats of shows start quickly, it’s good but underwhelming. What customers want like premier league and movies we can’t get till if all end of next year
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15-09-2018, 13:24
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016
On 999 repeats of shows start quickly, it’s good but underwhelming. What customers want like premier league and movies we can’t get till if all end of next year
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Might be a bit daft but I never get the whole need for ultra HD. HD alone is good enough. In fact i sometimes forget there is a HD channel and watch the SD stuff. I sound really old fashioned in a sense and i'm only at my early 30s. Its my birthday next month btw fans....
As someone who once watched a portable tv in my bedroom and had to adjust the aerial constantly to get a clear picture going from HD to UHD seems....rather pointless. I can view the tv. Its a crystal clear picture. Why do i want to see the sweat on someones brow? Again an utterly pointless opinion and i'm utterly in the minority i know.
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15-09-2018, 16:09
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Originally Posted by SonicMaster
Virgin TV EPG Updated
The short / long titles are now:
100 Showcase / Virgin TV Highlights
300 Music / New Music On Demand
400 Movies / Virgin Movies & Store
700 Kids / Kids TV On Demand
968 For Parents / A Message For Parents
985 For Parents / A Message For Parents
997 Welcome / Virgin TV For Newbies
998 What's On / Virgin TV Highlights
999 Ultra HD / Virgin TV Ultra HD
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15-09-2018, 17:56
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
I did some digging into the network upgrades - with some areas on 750mhz networks and others on 860mhz I decided to look for figures on this.
At year end 2015 only 13% of homes were on 860mhz capable networks, in 2016 this rose to 25% and at 31/12/2017 this figure was 78%.
I suppose the next question is whether the new kit is 1Ghz capable (approx 65% of the network upgraded since 31/12/2015).
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16-09-2018, 00:41
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Originally Posted by vincerooney
Might be a bit daft but I never get the whole need for ultra HD. HD alone is good enough. In fact i sometimes forget there is a HD channel and watch the SD stuff. I sound really old fashioned in a sense and i'm only at my early 30s. Its my birthday next month btw fans....
As someone who once watched a portable tv in my bedroom and had to adjust the aerial constantly to get a clear picture going from HD to UHD seems....rather pointless. I can view the tv. Its a crystal clear picture. Why do i want to see the sweat on someones brow? Again an utterly pointless opinion and i'm utterly in the minority i know.
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16-09-2018, 12:17
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Sorry for once I agree with Vince .think 3d TVs , laser disks ( I fell for that one) have 90" screen and then the details are very clear in hd .But would I waste good money for ultra HD
don't think so.sitting now looking at 2 42" screens side by side 1 hd and the other via scart in what is sd (but in fact Hd feed) I can not see any difference. I guess that in this case size does make a difference , many to the profit companies selling this to the gullable , emperor's New clothes comes to mind!
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16-09-2018, 12:40
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
Long term though it's not just about the resolution.
HDR is a noticeable difference, so anyone with a 4K HDR compatible TV will get a quality bump over both SD and HD when HDR is standard across all 4K broadcasts.
But getting HDR to be included is the current technical challenge faced by all broadcasters. That's why the BBC trial during the summer wasn't just about 4K's bandwidth requirements, but also (and mainly) about how well HLG HDR would work.
It's not been completely settled how HDR will work in the DVB standard either - https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2017...adata-for-hdr/
Even if it has been sorted since the above was written, it will take time for all playout technology to be updated to copy with HDR standards.
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16-09-2018, 13:31
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Originally Posted by Itshim
Sorry for once I agree with Vince .think 3d TVs , laser disks ( I fell for that one) have 90" screen and then the details are very clear in hd .But would I waste good money for ultra HD
don't think so.sitting now looking at 2 42" screens side by side 1 hd and the other via scart in what is sd (but in fact Hd feed) I can not see any difference. I guess that in this case size does make a difference , many to the profit companies selling this to the gullable , emperor's New clothes comes to mind!
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haha i like the "for once i agree" do i usually talk rubbish on here? Haha actually dont answer that! No doubt once UHD becomes the norm the television companies will create a new type of television to get us to invest further.
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