All F1 2004 Discussions - Page 14

paulyoung666 · 03-07-2004, 20:35

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Originally Posted by homealone

yes, a sad day, in my opinion, Max seems to be a real gent.

I reckon he's had enough of the b*ching & arguing and not being able to get the rule changes past the team bosses. He was less than complimentary about one of them, but it wasn't disclosed which one that was.

i dont suppose it would have been ferrari would it

paulyoung666 · 11-07-2004, 12:37

are itv thinking of , putting the news on half way through the race

iadom · 11-07-2004, 15:39

Well one more race won in the pit lane.

When was the last time anyone actually won an F1 race by overtaking the 2nd placed man in the last 20 laps under true racing conditions.
An amazing shunt though, the strength of F1 cars never ceases to amaze me, how the hell did he walk away from that.

paulyoung666 · 11-07-2004, 15:56

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Originally Posted by iadom

Well one more race won in the pit lane.

When was the last time anyone actually won an F1 race by overtaking the 2nd placed man in the last 20 laps under true racing conditions.
An amazing shunt though, the strength of F1 cars never ceases to amaze me, how the hell did he walk away from that.

dont ask me i dont have a clue how the hell they can walk away from something like that

Jonboy · 11-07-2004, 18:13

tac tic's my son tac tic's

all down to brain power

Matth · 11-07-2004, 18:15

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Originally Posted by homealone

yes, a sad day, in my opinion, Max seems to be a real gent.

I reckon he's had enough of the b*ching & arguing and not being able to get the rule changes past the team bosses. He was less than complimentary about one of them, but it wasn't disclosed which one that was.

I remember the commentator saying that Minardi were against the new qualifying, as they'd lose out on a return of the 107% rule (not really needed, while there are only 10 teams instead of the 12 there once were), and then some other teams followed suit for their own reasons.

As usual, a miserable weekend for Minardi, especially after the death of sporting director John Wilson.

How do they manage to keep up any enthusiasm? - neither the speed, nor the reliability, nor the luck to make any impact, while the other Italian team...

The Ferrari is the best car, or if not the best in everything, the best all-round package.
Schuey is one hell of a driver, but we've never seen a fair fight with his team mate ... and some extremely unfair ones!
And then, there's the strategy, the reliability, the luck - some would say you make your own luck, but if he dropped his toast, it would land butter side up!

paulyoung666 · 11-07-2004, 18:26

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Originally Posted by Jonboy

tac tic's my son tac tic's

all down to brain power

which is fair play to a point , it starts to wear a bit thin when it happens all the time , i can see where you are coming from but it aint racing is it , tbh i would rather watch btcc where it is bumper to bumper and let the best man win , lets be honest , there is far too much money involved in the sport now

11-07-2004, 18:29

Another predictable outcome. WOT NO COMPETITION!

iadom · 11-07-2004, 19:59

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Originally Posted by Jonboy

tac tic's my son tac tic's

all down to brain power

Oh dear, silly me, thinking it was about the best driving ie; speed, control, overtaking etc.

Jonboy · 11-07-2004, 20:36

yes i have to agree pauly my friend now its geting like football its a pity it all cant go back to basic's in all the sports trouble is if we could do that we as a country would be well hammered even more than we are allready
can't see any real answer can you ???

iadom · 11-07-2004, 22:39

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Originally Posted by Jonboy

yes i have to agree pauly my friend now its geting like football its a pity it all cant go back to basic's in all the sports trouble is if we could do that we as a country would be well hammered even more than we are allready
can't see any real answer can you ???

Calculate the average distance the field can manage on a full tank of fuel and then abolish pit stops altogether. Then the really skilful driver who can look after his tyres and fuel consumption, whilst actually having to try and overtake on the race track ( it is still called a race isn't it ) instead of having to rely on trained robots and computers in the pits.
It may even become exciting again and at a stroke reduce the massive costs incurred.
but on the other hand, I may have to start playing squash with a wooden Dunlop Maxply Fort instead of my state of the art graphite composite racket, now I would not like that one bit.

Oh yes, they could also make the drivers run to get into their cars like they used to at Le Mans. ( just being silly now) sorry.

ian@huth · 12-07-2004, 01:14

How about putting ballast in the cars, one kilo for each championship point. That'd slow Schumi down a bit (I think).

Matth · 12-07-2004, 18:51

Abolish qualifying, and start them in the reverse order of the last race finishing positions - then you'd see plenty of overtaking!

paulyoung666 · 12-07-2004, 19:03

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Originally Posted by Jonboy

yes i have to agree pauly my friend now its geting like football its a pity it all cant go back to basic's in all the sports trouble is if we could do that we as a country would be well hammered even more than we are allready
can't see any real answer can you ???

i can see an answer and it comes from america , i watched the cart racing on motors tv ( sorry , sky only ) and the racing was far from boring , some real ballsy racing and if a car went off the track then it was push/pull started and away it went as long as all the wheels were pointing in the right direction , i say go back to slicks , reduce the wings , steel brakes and a manual/sequential gearbox that the driver has to take his hand off the wheel to change gear with , add a bit of success ballast as in btcc and i reckon we would have a sport worthy of its name , the idea of 2 timed sessions would imho work to the good of the sport , saturdays prequalifying was pathetic , lets all go as slow as we can so we run first in the proper qualifying so we can avoid the rain we might get is total ******** imho , the push to pass button works extremely well in cart racing , why cant something like that be introduced into f1 ?????????? , rant over

MetaWraith · 12-07-2004, 19:05

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Originally Posted by Matth

Abolish qualifying, and start them in the reverse order of the last race finishing positions - then you'd see plenty of overtaking!

Probably more accidents too