The anyone but England thread!

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by danielf

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Originally Posted by danielf

That is probably true (if England continue as they did in the last 30 mins). It is however, by no means a given that England will win it. And a lot of England supporters apear to think it is, and that really annoys me.

THANK YOU - someone who can see it as it is! I've felt so alone all these years!!!!

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Bender

The blinkered bit was saying England look the best bar Spain - well no, they don't though, do they?

I'mn sorry, please refer to the post where I stated England were the best?

As mentioned since, look at Italy and Argentina. They look very good right now.

They look OK. No better than any of the other teams though.

As for Brazil, they don't even bother trying until the knockouts. Why waste energy, right?

BUt I don't suppose for a moment you'd suggest England woudl think the same as Brazil, as it doesn't fit your agenda, right?

I suppose I should mention Holland. They look ok. Probably the strongest team they have had since about 1992. Robben of course looks great, but needs to become more of a team player. There is a fair amount of youth in the team, and with that comes inexperience, but only time will give them that. I don't expect Holland to win this tournament, but they should reach the semi's. Personally, looking at England so far, I think the Quarters will be their last game. Sorry.

NO apology needed. I'm happy we're thourgh, and hopeful we'll go much further.

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by orangebird

BUt I don't suppose for a moment you'd suggest England woudl think the same as Brazil, as it doesn't fit your agenda, right?

the difference is, after watching both games, I get the impression England were actually trying most of the game. Brazil just walked it. Of course, I could be wrong, and this is just my opinion, but it is the way I saw it.

We shouldn't forget of course about the 'lesser' teams - those who are not well known for the quality of their international level football. There are some great TEAMS out there, those that really work hard and together - I'm expecting some big surprises this year.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by danielf

That is probably true (if England continue as they did in the last 30 mins). It is however, by no means a given that England will win it. And a lot of England supporters apear to think it is, and that really annoys me.

But I haven't stated they they will win it and am getting mocked anyway- where as other folk have been quite happy to state they WON'T. Who knows who's going to? I'm an England supporter who WANTS England to win, and at the moment, we do have as good a chance as anyone to do that. Time will tell.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by orangebird

But I haven't stated they they will win it and am getting mocked anyway- where as other folk have been quite happy to state they WON'T. Who knows who's going to? I'm an England supporter who WANTS England to win, and at the moment, we do have as good a chance as anyone to do that. Time will tell.

Fair enough. I didn't mock you btw. Personally, I think England do stand a chance if they stop playing the long ball, use the midfield, and play positively. That means not trying to sit on a one-nil lead, and let the opposition camp outside the box (booting the ball up the park giving it away). Sadly, I can see that happening, and it may be their undoing, as it was in the last two tournaments (rember Portugal?).

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by danielf

Fair enough. I didn't mock you btw. Personally, I think England do stand a chance if they stop playing the long ball, use the midfield, and play positively. That means not trying to sit on a one-nil lead, and let the opposition camp outside the box (booting the ball up the park giving it away). Sadly, I can see that happening, and it may be their undoing, as it was in the last two tournaments (rember Portugal?).

and get over this mental block of depending on one player to save them. in the past you had Beckham, now it's Rooney. The whole team seems to lift when these players come on, but England are more than capable of playing at a higher lever when they are not on the pitch as well. There's a huge dependancy and it isn't fair on the player in question.

Oh, and can the BBC PLEASE stop refering to England games, past and present, every 10 minutes during EVERY game they cover even when England are not playing!!! GAH!!!

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by danielf

Fair enough. I didn't mock you btw. Personally, I think England do stand a chance if they stop playing the long ball, use the midfield, and play positively. That means not trying to sit on a one-nil lead, and let the opposition camp outside the box (booting the ball up the park giving it away). Sadly, I can see that happening, and it may be their undoing, as it was in the last two tournaments (rember Portugal?).

I agree with that post 110% - long balls kill us, we have a fab midfield and need to utilise it a lot better than we are...

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Originally Posted by Bender

and get over this mental block of depending on one player to save them. in the past you had Beckham, now it's Rooney. The whole team seems to lift when these players come on, but England are more than capable of playing at a higher lever when they are not on the pitch as well. There's a huge dependancy and it isn't fair on the player in question.

Oh, and can the BBC PLEASE stop refering to England games, past and present, every 10 minutes during EVERY game they cover even when England are not playing!!! GAH!!!

m8, that ****es me off royaly too.

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by orangebird

m8, that ****es me off royaly too.

lol

[TheBlueRaja]

Mon the Sweden!

She's a true blonde under that ball too i can assure you!

[danielf]

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

Mon the Sweden!

She's a true blonde under that ball too i can assure you!

Go ahead, support IKEA. We all know what it's like. Once it's taken apart, there's no way to get it back together

[TheBlueRaja]

Originally Posted by danielf

Go ahead, support IKEA. We all know what it's like. Once it's taken apart, there's no way to get it back together

LOL, im not really supporting them, im more not supporting England.

Good luck to Holland today too - i really would like them to do well!

[danielf]

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

LOL, im not really supporting them, im more not supporting England.

Good luck to Holland today too - i really would like them to do well!

Thanks. We'll need it

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by danielf

Thanks. We'll need it

too true - Cocu is in the team!!!

[SlackDad]

All this England bashing and any one but England is nonsense. As Alan Green (he's Northern Irish) on Radio Five Live said last night before the England game, it's pathetic that anyone form Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland would not want to see England do well.

I support England, but would always want any of the home nations to do well.

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by SlackDad

All this England bashing and any one but England is nonsense. As Alan Green (he's Northern Irish) on Radio Five Live said last night before the England game, it's pathetic that anyone form Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland would not want to see England do well.

I support England, but would always want any of the home nations to do well.

It was a topic on 'The Wright Stuff' on channel 5 today actually. There were one or 2 Scots who called up to say they were supporting England, but most were not! I quite agree with you though, still the UK. The 4 countries should be backing eachother. I think it's all historic, when the English persecuted anyone they could catch unless they saw things the way the English King / Queen did at that time.

Still, I doubt I'd see the Spaniards supporting Portugal or the Polish supporting Germany, so ho-hum...