Gay couple claim they were ejected from pub for kissing

[Welshchris]

Originally Posted by Gary L

The bible says gay sex is a sin. God loves all sinners. some Christians can cure sinners.

by getting them to talk to God, I think.

The Bible also claims that Slavery and Prostitution are ok does that mean we should live by their rules also?

The bible is nothing more than a bunch of stories written by Hypocrits that just wanted people to live by what they wanted while they proberbly did the complete opposite. Take the catholic church, HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN!, yeah but having it off with little boys seems rife and it dates back years and even the Pope himself tried to block police looking into it and proof came about when a letter from the Pope came to light telling the priests, cardinals etc NOT to cooperate with the Police. Typical Religion, Followers must follow what we say but we can do what we like.

Religion is for fools, God loves everyone and made me who i am and if he wishes to Judge me for who i am when i go then so be it, but no one else will.

[Russ]

Incorrect and ignorant generalisations are also for fools.

Originally Posted by Welshchris

Religion is for fools, God loves everyone and made me who i am and if he wishes to Judge me for who i am when i go then so be it, but no one else will.

But here you are expressing a religious belief. Does that make you a fool as well?

Originally Posted by Welshchris

The Bible also claims that Slavery and Prostitution are ok does that mean we should live by their rules also?

Wrong but Christ forgave Mary Magdalene and taught repentance and change in Christs name would bring forgiveness to all

Originally Posted by Welshchris

The bible is nothing more than a bunch of stories written by Hypocrits that just wanted people to live by what they wanted while they proberbly did the complete opposite. Take the catholic church, HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN!, yeah but having it off with little boys seems rife and it dates back years and even the Pope himself tried to block police looking into it and proof came about when a letter from the Pope came to light telling the priests, cardinals etc NOT to cooperate with the Police. Typical Religion, Followers must follow what we say but we can do what we like.

Well the Catholic church has repressed its priests sexually since the days of the Borgia's due to the fact the wealth of the church was kept in the family and I agree how they act with the kiddie fiddlers is appalling. Time for change in the rules I think specially seeing as ex COE priests who left after they allowed women to be ordained are allowed to be married and have families


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Originally Posted by Welshchris

Religion is for fools, God loves everyone and made me who i am and if he wishes to Judge me for who i am when i go then so be it, but no one else will.

Yeah with Chris here .An oxymoron if ever I saw one this is possibly the funniest thing I have seen in a long time

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Chris

Arthur is correct, up to a point. The landlord can kick anyone out of his pub and he doesn't have to give a reason.

Mind you, if he does give a reason, that reason can't be one that would breach a law such as the Equality Act, but he is certainly well within his rights to decide he wants no snogging in his pub and to act accordingly.

He is, up to a point.

It's worth remembering that when you go into a pub or shop, you are allowed in because the landlord/manager/owner has allowed you in. You do not have an automatic right to be there. The owner has the ultimate right, but the manager or landlord can act in their absence. We were actually told when I worked for Blockbuster (the small Express store I worked in rarely had a manager on duty) that if we felt uncomfortable dealing with a customer we were within our rights to ask them to leave.

Of course, that does not mean we could ask them to leave based purely upon their race, gender or sexuality. We had to operate within the confines of the law.

Originally Posted by Stuart

He is, up to a point.

It's worth remembering that when you go into a pub or shop, you are allowed in because the landlord/manager/owner has allowed you in. You do not have an automatic right to be there. The owner has the ultimate right, but the manager or landlord can act in their absence. We were actually told when I worked for Blockbuster (the small Express store I worked in rarely had a manager on duty) that if we felt uncomfortable dealing with a customer we were within our rights to ask them to leave.

Of course, that does not mean we could ask them to leave based purely upon their race, gender or sexuality. We had to operate within the confines of the law.

asking a dodgy customer to leave is a sure fire way of making him/her more dodgy lol

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Zing

asking a dodgy customer to leave is a sure fire way of making him/her more dodgy lol

Not necessarily. In my experience, most people will leave if they are required to. They may moan about it, but they will do it.

If they don't, you can always involve the Police who will happily move them on (and did, the one time I did have trouble).

Originally Posted by Stuart

Not necessarily. In my experience, most people will leave if they are required to. They may moan about it, but they will do it.

If they don't, you can always involve the Police who will happily move them on (and did, the one time I did have trouble).

I used to be a butcher. Our most problematic customers were Indians last thing on a Saturday wanting a shoulder of Lamb boned and defatted when all I wanted to do was go home lol lol

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Zing

I used to be a butcher. Our most problematic customers were Indians last thing on a Saturday wanting a shoulder of Lamb boned and defatted when all I wanted to do was go home lol lol

Admittedly, the one time I did have trouble, I had good reason to believe the people concerned were nicking stock. They scarpered as soon as they saw the blue flashing lights of the Police car..

Originally Posted by Zing

well and I know I am going to get flamed here but abortion is far to easy to get nowadays. I will never ever agree that abortion is ever right when used as contraception IE morning after pill and I will never agree that abortion is right for women who just caught by mistake. Spread your legs with no protection you made the choice you should bare the consequences its murder in my eyes.The only time I my opinion is a bit different is where health is at risk

The back street abortions were due to society not accepting single women getting pregnant I do think the change there is good except for those who do it to get housed and benefit

Well marriage is a contract and being a victim of a cheating woman who got away scott free maybe divorce should be harder to get now

Well you only have to see the influx of immigrants and how soft this country is for me I think racial equality although fair should not mean those native to this country have less rights in certain situations than those who were either born abroad or are children of those born abroad.

I know my views will be distasteful to some but I am honest and not afraid to voice my opinion

Wasn't just single women who visited back street abortionists Zing.Contraception pre Pill was very unreliable.

As for the rest of your views well I cannot agree with all of them.

Some women were treated dreadfully by their husbands and during that time the idea that domestic abuse should be an affair for the police was unheard of.
I know you think women get an easy ride these days but there was a time when the laws of this country were very much weighted in the interests of men.Any woman who left her home and her children because of domestic abuse were deemed to have left the marital home and to have lost the right of access to their children.
Sadly there were no refuges for such women and their children and taking your children with you to live rough was not a solution for most women especially if they had no family to turn to.

As I said today there are some issues that are handled differently and there is a reason for that.I'm sad that some women having got to a better position re equality use it as a weapon against men..it's not right and it's not fair and it tars those women whom are not guilty of thinking that way.

[Dai]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

As I said today there are some issues that are handled differently and there is a reason for that.I'm sad that some women having got to a better position re equality use it as a weapon against men..it's not right and it's not fair and it tars those women whom are not guilty of thinking that way.

Well said.

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Wasn't just single women who visited back street abortionists Zing.Contraception pre Pill was very unreliable.

As for the rest of your views well I cannot agree with all of them.

Some women were treated dreadfully by their husbands and during that time the idea that domestic abuse should be an affair for the police was unheard of.
I know you think women get an easy ride these days but there was a time when the laws of this country were very much weighted in the interests of men.Any woman who left her home and her children because of domestic abuse were deemed to have left the marital home and to have lost the right of access to their children.
Sadly there were no refuges for such women and their children and taking your children with you to live rough was not a solution for most women especially if they had no family to turn to.

As I said today there are some issues that are handled differently and there is a reason for that.I'm sad that some women having got to a better position re equality use it as a weapon against men..it's not right and it's not fair and it tars those women whom are not guilty of thinking that way.

yes definately.

And I am glad women are not allowed to be beaten in the home that was never right

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Wasn't just single women who visited back street abortionists Zing.Contraception pre Pill was very unreliable.

As for the rest of your views well I cannot agree with all of them.

Some women were treated dreadfully by their husbands and during that time the idea that domestic abuse should be an affair for the police was unheard of.
I know you think women get an easy ride these days but there was a time when the laws of this country were very much weighted in the interests of men.Any woman who left her home and her children because of domestic abuse were deemed to have left the marital home and to have lost the right of access to their children.
Sadly there were no refuges for such women and their children and taking your children with you to live rough was not a solution for most women especially if they had no family to turn to.

As I said today there are some issues that are handled differently and there is a reason for that.I'm sad that some women having got to a better position re equality use it as a weapon against men..it's not right and it's not fair and it tars those women whom are not guilty of thinking that way.

Yes, tackling one unfairness by creating another isn't a solution.

[iFrankie]

Interesting this

Facebook forcibly removed a photo today of two men kissing from a page protesting a London pub’s decision to eject a same-sex couple for kissing. A "gay kiss-in" demonstration has been organized and is being promoted on Dangerous Minds Facebook page, which posted the picture of the two men in lip-lock as the events visual.

http://perezhilton.com/2011-04-18-ga...moved-facebook

They take it down because of a kiss, but some of my facebook friends who have pictures of themselves well drunk and half flashing! and they don't get taken down? :/

[Russ]

Presumably because they don't get reported.