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TheDaddy · 01-05-2009, 12:38

He got 3 years............

Peter_ · 01-05-2009, 12:51

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

He got 3 years............

Any more details such as did he lose his job and all pension rights

TheDaddy · 01-05-2009, 12:54

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Originally Posted by Moldova

Any more details such as did he lose his job and all pension rights

Goes without saying he'll lose both, I am sure Derek will confirm this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/8028666.stm

Julian · 01-05-2009, 13:12

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Any more details such as did he lose his job and all pension rights

Rightly imprisoned and will certainly lose his job. I don't see where the bit about losing his pension rights comes into it though.

**Chris** · 01-05-2009, 13:17

It can happen if you're sacked from the police. It wouldn't be part of the court's sentence but would be decided after a disciplinary hearing.

TheDaddy · 01-05-2009, 13:18

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Rightly imprisoned and will certainly lose his job. I don't see where the bit about losing his pension rights comes into it though.

There are three potential stages under Regulation K5.

Whether a person has been convicted of an offence committed in connection with his service as a member of the Police Service and whether an application should be made to the Secretary of State for a certificate of forfeiture (“Certificate Decision”).
Whether the offence is certified by the Secretary of state to be gravely injurious to the interests of the State or to be liable to lead to serious loss of confidence in the public service.
Whether the pension should be forfeit and, if so, by what percentage and for how long (“Forfeiture Decision”).

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache...&ct=clnk&gl=uk

Gary L · 01-05-2009, 13:55

Says he's resigned from the force.

You have now resigned from the police force with all that means for you and your family. ?

**Chris** · 01-05-2009, 14:32

... AFAIK that means he'll probably keep his pension, by avoiding any disciplinary proceedings.

01-05-2009, 15:03

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... AFAIK that means he'll probably keep his pension, by avoiding any disciplinary proceedings.

That is just plain wrong then

Derek · 01-05-2009, 16:20

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That is just plain wrong then

At the risk of being accused of always jumping to the defence of the Police how is it wrong?

Did he set out with the express intention of killing someone that night? Was he corrupt in any way?

No. He made a horrendous error of judgement which has cost him his liberty and job. He won't get a full Police pension but I don't think he should lose everything he's paid into it over the years.

01-05-2009, 16:23

He has been found guilty of a criminal offence and is now serving a prison sentence thats about as far away from what being a police officer should be. He has done the worst thing anyone can do and thats take a life. Think he should be rewarded for all his hard work by continuing to take public funds?? sorry I do not

Gary L · 01-05-2009, 16:42

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He has been found guilty of a criminal offence and is now serving a prison sentence thats about as far away from what being a police officer should be. He has done the worst thing anyone can do and thats take a life. Think he should be rewarded for all his hard work by continuing to take public funds?? sorry I do not

Have to agree. he wasn't found guilty and sent to prison because everyone felt sorry for him. it was because he killed someone and he's guilty.

You can sit there and feel sorry for him, make sure he's got everything he needs to make the sentence as easy as possible, but at the end of the day he's been found guilty of a serious criminal offence.

I think there is a good chance he will lose his pension for being convicted. you can't just resign and keep it, and get sacked and lose it.

Derek · 01-05-2009, 17:06

I would say there is a million miles of a difference between intentionally killing someone and killing them by accident.

Gary L · 01-05-2009, 17:11

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I would say there is a million miles of a difference between intentionally killing someone and killing them by accident.

But you'd agree that he's a criminal?
Drink drivers deserve all they get in court, but if they didn't intentionally intend to kill the person, then should we be leniant and hope they don't lose their job and everything?

**Hugh** · 01-05-2009, 17:13

I believe Derek was talking about the guy's pension, which was contributory - why should he lose that?