Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Not really…
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Yes really.
Israel don't feel 'safe' with Hamas on their doorstep
Russia don't feel 'secure' with NATO on their doorstep.
In both scenarios there was (is) a lot of slapping each other but nobody getting anywhere fast.
The 'good guys' are just as complicit as the 'bad guys' in both scenarios.
The Israel conflict has now been ended (for now), and the Ukraine conflict (which hasn't been sorted in two weeks as advertised) will eventually end . . . and again how long will it last.
Both have cost many lives, caused enormous structural damage, and don't even think about the finances involved (although some will obviously be making yet another fortune)
Same shit, different continent
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War
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Originally Posted by Carth
Yes really.
Israel don't feel 'safe' with Hamas on their doorstep
Russia don't feel 'secure' with NATO on their doorstep.
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So, Israel doesn't feel safe with Hamas on its doorstep so attacks attacks the state with Hamas in it, Gaza. That bit I get.
Russia doesn't feel safe with NATO on its doorstep in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. So it attacks a country without NATO in it, Ukraine.
Make this make sense. 
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
So, Israel doesn't feel safe with Hamas on its doorstep so attacks attacks the state with Hamas in it, Gaza. That bit I get.
Russia doesn't feel safe with NATO on its doorstep in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. So it attacks a country without NATO in it, Ukraine.
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If the axiom is about feeling safe as a country, then your hypothesis on Russia seems to me to be flawed.
Russia doesn't feel unsafe at all - at least not in the sense of what Hams/Hezbollah have done to Israel.
Russia's beef is most likely to be geopolitical. They've got Crimea and want as much control over the Black Sea as possible plus the mineral rich Donbas. And so what if Ukraine did join NATO? NATO would push the button? Russia wouldn't as it would be counterproductive.
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
If the axiom is about feeling safe as a country, then your hypothesis on Russia seems to me to be flawed.
Russia doesn't feel unsafe at all - at least not in the sense of what Hams/Hezbollah have done to Israel.
Russia's beef is most likely to be geopolitical. They've got Crimea and want as much control over the Black Sea as possible plus the mineral rich Donbas. And so what if Ukraine did join NATO? NATO would push the button? Russia wouldn't as it would be counterproductive.
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It's Carth's hypothesis not mine - see his post at 13.16.
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