07-10-2025, 20:47
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Starmer isn't a populist, though. He's much more of an (ineffective) technocrat. Corbyn was a populist.
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He's an un populist ,in fact cat shit's more popular than he is
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07-10-2025, 20:48
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Remoaner
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Re: President Trump 2.0
Not popular, nor a populist.
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07-10-2025, 21:10
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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Starmer isn't a populist, though. He's much more of an (ineffective) technocrat. Corbyn was a populist.
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He won a massive majority…makes him populist against the established Tories.
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a person, especially a politician, who strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.
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The point I’m making is that it is a useless term.
The whole point about politics is to be popular.
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07-10-2025, 21:30
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Pierre
He won a massive majority…makes him populist against the established Tories.
The point I’m making is that it is a useless term.
The whole point about politics is to be popular.
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Yes, but I think there is a difference between being popular and being a populist. A populist is someone whose politics is about defining themselves as on the side of the people against the elites. The elites change depending on which side you're on. Corbyn would define them as CEOs and the wealthy more than Farage would, for example, but it's the elites that are the problem.
Not every politician frames politics that way. Both main parties had a lot of people who were more technocratic and saw politics as an act of administration rather than taking on entrenched elites. Sunak, May and even Cameron, to an exten,t wouldn't be called populists.
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07-10-2025, 21:39
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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I like world peace. Figureheads that bark orders like they themselves are perfect is beyond acceptable behaviour. It's not peaceful. It's very disturbing.
Bullshit rhetoric. Everybody is bad except me. Piss off! Thank God she's not president!!!
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Phew! Lucky Trump isn’t like that, what with him being so self-effacing and humble, rarely being aggressive or derogatory to others…
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07-10-2025, 21:50
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Re: President Trump 2.0
It's his personal opinion 
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07-10-2025, 21:59
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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So Harris was barking orders, Trump’s just stating an opinion (when he issues over 209 executive orders, 52 memoranda, and 91 proclamations, and orders the National Guard into US cities…), and he is being humble when he says “I’m really good at this stuff" and "I’ve been right about everything.”/
OK…
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07-10-2025, 22:02
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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and he is being humble when he says “I’m really good at this stuff" and "I’ve been right about everything.”/
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Hugh, I get the feeling you are not a fan 
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07-10-2025, 22:16
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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So Harris was barking orders, Trump’s just stating an opinion (when he issues over 209 executive orders, 52 memoranda, and 91 proclamations, and orders the National Guard into US cities…), and he is being humble when he says “I’m really good at this stuff" and "I’ve been right about everything.”/
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Harris leadership would have been to destabilise everything all the while look to be the perfect one. You could argue both have those qualities.
Outcast Russia, destabilise peace in the middle east, Asia need telling how to live.. south America destabilised...
Back to my point. I don't need someone that lives in a totally different country how I should live my life thanks.
Would Harris address homeland issues or pick on other countries.
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08-10-2025, 09:08
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Sorry, but everything you claim Harris would have done is exactly what Trump has done.
Harris would certainly not have dismantled the government, stripped out many government agencies and all the very divisive things the orange potato has done.
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08-10-2025, 09:17
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Re: President Trump 2.0
That's fine if Trump wants to turn the gun on himself. Don't point it at me you have no rights on my life.
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08-10-2025, 10:04
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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That's fine if Trump wants to turn the gun on himself. Don't point it at me you have no rights on my life.
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No one is pointing a gun when we show that your statements are not congruent with actuality…
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08-10-2025, 10:18
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Re: President Trump 2.0
Ok so Harris wouldn't have taken action on internal affairs like that of international affairs. How can you berate others while seeing your own country delve to new lows.
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08-10-2025, 11:03
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Ok so Harris wouldn't have taken action on internal affairs like that of international affairs. How can you berate others while seeing your own country delve to new lows.
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Gish-galloping at it’s finest…
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08-10-2025, 11:46
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Outcast Russia
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Putin did that when he invaded Ukraine, poisoned people in Salisbury etc. That's not something to be blamed on any other country.
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