Online Safety Bill Etc

Originally Posted by Carth

Tell me how a survey of 2000 people (catered to the poll subject) is a valid indication of what every parent in the UK think.

Tell me how a loaded question (every parent in the UK) tries to invalidate the established science of statistics?

The survey is a statistical representation of a representative sample, which has been proven (within a margin of error of approx. +/- 3%) to provide (a high % of the time) results which reflect the real world.

Just because you don’t understand it, doesn’t make it invalid - I don’t understand how quantum tunnelling works in the microchips in my phone/tablet/PC, but somehow the devices still work…

https://afry.com/en/insight/fascinat...ntum-tunneling

[GrimUpNorth]

You've got to be so careful not to use loaded questions. Anyway, back to the discussion, when will the government admit that the proposed policy is a failure?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

You've got to be so careful not to use loaded questions. Anyway, back to the discussion, when will the government admit that the proposed policy is a failure?

wait for the u turn like the rest of us do

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by joglynne

Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has, this morning, confirmed that under-16s will be banned from social media as part of a major overhaul of online safety rules for children. New legislation hoped to be in place by Spring 2027

I'm 78 is this new legislation going to mean I have to prove I'm over 16 on every social media site I visit.
Also who will be the first to create a VPN where P = persona. It will only take one person to do it and kids will spread the information faster than a wild fire.
Never underestimate a young teenager they will always find a way around something that tries to stop them doing what they want to do.

Don't get me wrong I do believe we should protect our children but so much that has been put forward is already a naive attempt to turn back the tide.

Would I have to prove I'm over 16 on Facebook, despite I've been on there nearly 18 years?

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Paul

It isnt, nor do we know what questions were actually asked (loaded or worded to get the answer wanted).
Its easy to ask if if you just think something is a good idea, without going into detail or the consequences.

I'm sure if you asked parents if families with children should all get free access to the internet they would all say its a great idea, without thinking about issues it may create.

This is complete ballcocks

Loss of childhood ? Seriously, what planet are they on ?

Mainstream media is more responsible for that than anyone else.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Tell me how a loaded question (every parent in the UK) tries to invalidate the established science of statistics?

The survey is a statistical representation of a representative sample, which has been proven (within a margin of error of approx. +/- 3%) to provide (a high % of the time) results which reflect the real world.

Just because you don’t understand it, doesn’t make it invalid - I don’t understand how quantum tunnelling works in the microchips in my phone/tablet/PC, but somehow the devices still work…

https://afry.com/en/insight/fascinat...ntum-tunneling

Oh I understand 'statistical representation of a representative sample' as you nicely put it. I also understand that it's a very small sample size, coupled with quite possibly a select (biased) choice of those polled, coupled with it's the Gov. once again possibly pushing a current controversial subject out there to show 'the people' that it's well supported.

Lots of 'ifs, buts, possibly and could be' in there but that's opinions for you

Anyway, besides that, small sample statistical polling stuff is something you and I always disagree about, probably always will, it's very much a marmite thing I guess, but as long as we limit it to the occasional at each other all is well

[Taf]

Blair wanted us to have digital IDs. Brown dropped the priority to do so. The Lib-Con period saw the idea dropped completely. I smell Blair's dogma on this announcement "to save the children".

[Taf]

Facebook (Meta) continues with it's own methods....