General : Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 3

[Anypermitedroute]

Originally Posted by vincerooney

i'm actually quite confident we'll get the champions league for one year free in XL? VM have a contract with BT sport for 3 years in XL. Unless they create a new channel to shove champions league coverage on and charge VM customers access to that one channel on subscription? i can't see that happening as surely it'd be like sky sports 5 it justs part of the bundle VM have got a contract for??

I'm being optimistic for once instead of negative haha.

I'm with you in this, the only downside is if they do stick on red button it's not HD unless the red button is a HD feed

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by Coventrywoo

we will get it for 1 year your right..
2 games only!!
BUT WE WONT GET ALL 8 GAMES
your dreaming!!!!
they wont give us the red button..
they paid 1billion, so you think there going to give it for free

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I guess it all depends whether they are likely to get more with individual VM subscriptions than with a wholesale deal in partnership with VM.

Originally Posted by Coventrywoo

yes i agree but they will give VM the red button, when BT isnt in the XL...

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, we will see, but don't forget, they are not Sky...

Base on info I saw last week on Digital Spy Forum both BT Sport Extra 1 and TruTV are testing as of September 7th.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=1428

[Coventrywoo]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

Base on info I saw last week on Digital Spy Forum both BT Sport Extra 1 and TruTV are testing as of September 7th.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=1428

so id say they will charge us 10 to 15 quid for BT Sport Extra....

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Coventrywoo

so id say they will charge us 10 to 15 quid for BT Sport Extra....

If they do charge us £15 l can guarantee there won't be many takers.

[muppetman11]

UK

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, we will see, but don't forget, they are not Sky...

You let your hatred for all things Sky cloud your judgement on too many occasions , look at the facts

BT is paying £299 million a season over 3 years nearly double the previous contract

BT has shareholders just the same as BSKYB meaning they want to see maximim return on these rights

BT currently offers BT Sport free to VM XL customers or free to any customer taking its BB offering on either BT TV or the Sky Satellite platform

Can you realistically see no additional cost once the champions league contract kicks in ? I'm sure BT will look to increase revenue across all its viewers , I'm sure agreements will be reached but in my opinion people will be paying more.

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by Coventrywoo

so id say they will charge us 10 to 15 quid for BT Sport Extra....

BT are telling Sky Viewers to press Red when on BT Sport 1 for BT Sport Extra 1, BT Sport Extra 1 will launch on Friday with Football from France.

http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/d...ra/c/6401,6459

[RichardCoulter]

On Sky it costs them extra for another EPG listing, which is probably not worth it for the odd overflow game.

On VM I expect that they'll have a proper EPG listing; thus enabling the possibility of recording

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Originally Posted by vincerooney

i'm actually quite confident we'll get the champions league for one year free in XL? VM have a contract with BT sport for 3 years in XL. Unless they create a new channel to shove champions league coverage on and charge VM customers access to that one channel on subscription? i can't see that happening as surely it'd be like sky sports 5 it justs part of the bundle VM have got a contract for??

I'm being optimistic for once instead of negative haha.

The carriage contract may or may not cover the launch of any new channels- I don't know the details on this one. Anybody else know?

[vincerooney]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

UK
You let your hatred for all things Sky cloud your judgement on too many occasions , look at the facts

BT is paying £299 million a season over 3 years nearly double the previous contract

BT has shareholders just the same as BSKYB meaning they want to see maximim return on these rights

BT currently offers BT Sport free to VM XL customers or free to any customer taking its BB offering on either BT TV or the Sky Satellite platform

Can you realistically see no additional cost once the champions league contract kicks in ? I'm sure BT will look to increase revenue across all its viewers , I'm sure agreements will be reached but in my opinion people will be paying more.

understand all this and agree with most but playing devils advocate for one moment...lets remember its not as if BT are getting nothing from VM. isnt it like 4 quid for every person on XL goes to BT? Which admittedly is weak and low but they are getting a return currently.

The champions league kicks in next year maybe BT would see the advantage of running the VM contract down for one more year showcasing all their "unmissable sport" to entice VM customers to subscribe from the year after??

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

UK
You let your hatred for all things Sky cloud your judgement on too many occasions , look at the facts

BT is paying £299 million a season over 3 years nearly double the previous contract

BT has shareholders just the same as BSKYB meaning they want to see maximim return on these rights

BT currently offers BT Sport free to VM XL customers or free to any customer taking its BB offering on either BT TV or the Sky Satellite platform

Can you realistically see no additional cost once the champions league contract kicks in ? I'm sure BT will look to increase revenue across all its viewers , I'm sure agreements will be reached but in my opinion people will be paying more.

The crucial fact is that none of us knows what was in the three-year contract which BT and VM signed in August 2013. VM could have signed an agreement to include all new contracts and channels or there could have been exclusions; we simply don't know. How much the Champions League costs BT is not directly relevant; it's what's in the contract between BT and VM that matters.

[MutleyF]

Originally Posted by theone2k10

I will no longer be providing any rumours regarding virgin tv guys, reason being is i don't trust my sources that much now and i'm concentrating more now on streaming services.
I will ofcourse post any actual info i get from across the web and i will be posting streaming services rumours n info in the relevant threads.

Think I would like you to continue ... rumours are just that until confirmed, but they do make the forum an interesting place to be at times !

[Coventrywoo]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

BT are telling Sky Viewers to press Red when on BT Sport 1 for BT Sport Extra 1, BT Sport Extra 1 will launch on Friday with Football from France.

http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/d...ra/c/6401,6459

interesting....

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The crucial fact is that none of us knows what was in the three-year contract which BT and VM signed in August 2013. VM could have signed an agreement to include all new contracts and channels or there could have been exclusions; we simply don't know. How much the Champions League costs BT is not directly relevant; it's what's in the contract between BT and VM that matters.

After reading my post back I agree , I caused confusion by saying once the champions league kicks in , VM's contract runs past this so nothing may change until them terms expire.

My original point stands though I expect us all regardless of platform or BB provider to have to pay a little more going forward thats not to say I'm of the opinion it won't be included in XL however I'm of the view BT will be looking for more money when contracts are up , all pure speculation on my behalf though.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

UK
You let your hatred for all things Sky cloud your judgement on too many occasions , look at the facts

BT is paying £299 million a season over 3 years nearly double the previous contract

BT has shareholders just the same as BSKYB meaning they want to see maximim return on these rights

BT currently offers BT Sport free to VM XL customers or free to any customer taking its BB offering on either BT TV or the Sky Satellite platform

Can you realistically see no additional cost once the champions league contract kicks in ? I'm sure BT will look to increase revenue across all its viewers , I'm sure agreements will be reached but in my opinion people will be paying more.

I only meant that BT may not play the silly tricks that Sky are renowned for, like denying red button and HD facilities.

I don't 'hate' Sky, who have done wonders for British TV, I just don't like some of their underhand tactics.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I only meant that BT may not play the silly tricks that Sky are renowned for, like denying red button and HD facilities.

I don't 'hate' Sky, who have done wonders for British TV, I just don't like some of their underhand tactics.

A lot of companies increasingly use underhand tactics OB so we can't just apply those tactics to Sky.

My only gripe with Sky was their dreadful broadband service which my parents had signed up to but thankfully they have now changed supplier.

[Mad Max]

If Virgin want more money from me for BT having CL football then they can ram it, imo the CL is becoming a bore fest, UEFA need to change the way the tournament is run to bring in more teams, it's the same old, same old every year.