Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
27-07-2012, 12:04
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
Interesting,,,,, any guess as to the yellow bits,,,,, theres no one in our house and nothing switched on to use the internet apart from the Sky+ box, yet there are clear yellow bits which are usually indicative of use on my network.
Yet my network hasnt been used since about midnight last night???
minimum latency could be a tad better ideally but I suspect that is just Sky's interleaving?
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27-07-2012, 12:43
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
Sky has no control over interleaving on Fibre.
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27-07-2012, 15:36
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq
Sky has no control over interleaving on Fibre.
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Ive heard that, but do they have any control at all, specifically over things like max delays
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27-07-2012, 17:17
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
I think sky can order profile resets. So they do have some limited control.
They also can ask for line faults to be investigated, since a line fault can cause interleaving to be applied they have indirect control in that way as well.
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27-07-2012, 17:23
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
was reading in a forum all isp's have full control of the fibre, other way will not sell it
That was told by BT engineer
Don't remember the thread now but i have seen it 100%
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27-07-2012, 18:26
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I think sky can order profile resets. So they do have some limited control.
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No, they can't. Only Openreach engineers can order profile resets, and they have to be physically on-site with a line tester to do it. Sky can only request an engineer visit, what the engineer does is up to Openreach.
The only thing they have control over is whether the line is put on Standard, Stable or Super-Stable profile(s). These are just different error thresholds for the application of rate-limiting and interleaving but none turn them on or off by themselves.
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was reading in a forum all isp's have full control of the fibre, other way will not sell it
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They have zero control over the fibre. Even standard Openreach engineers (including those that install FTTC services) have zero control over the fibre, and can't even access the FTTC cabinet.
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27-07-2012, 20:07
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
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They have zero control over the fibre. Even standard Openreach engineers (including those that install FTTC services) have zero control over the fibre, and can't even access the FTTC cabinet.
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That was told by BT BT engineer or openreach
What is the point to sell it if have not control? is not make sense selling something that can not control .... but you could be right here
About the FTTC cabinet they can access it
I am in London almost fibre cabinets everywhere (even here is one fibre around 60 meters away but i am direct to exchange together with about an other 70-80 premises)
I have seen many engineers be at various cabinets for installing people's FTTC ( i know because i was asking them questions even i did not know them) and have seen by my self they have both open cabinets (fibre & normal) and do works during instillation at both of them
Other case i have seen engineer just have open only one FTTC cabinet and the normal next of it close
100% sure
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27-07-2012, 22:28
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
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That was told by BT BT engineer or openreach
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Since you can't tell the difference between engineers for two different companies you certainly can't make any claims about two different types of engineer for one company...
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What is the point to sell it if have not control? is not make sense selling something that can not control .... but you could be right here
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To make money. Same reason anyone sells internet services.
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About the FTTC cabinet they can access it
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Define "they".
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I have seen many engineers be at various cabinets for installing people's FTTC ( i know because i was asking them questions even i did not know them) and have seen by my self they have both open cabinets (fibre & normal) and do works during instillation at both of them
Other case i have seen engineer just have open only one FTTC cabinet and the normal next of it close
100% sure
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And your point is?
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27-07-2012, 22:45
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If you can't tell the difference between the two then you certainly can't make claims about one vs. the other.
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as i said i have seen them i am looking them every day passing next of them
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What is the point to sell it if have not control? is not make sense selling something that can not control .... but you could be right here
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To make money. Same reason anyone sells internet services.
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as i said you can be right about selling fibre with out having control ....for making money...yes you can be right
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Even standard Openreach engineers (including those that install FTTC services) have zero control over the fibre, and can't even access the FTTC cabinet.
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I have seen many engineers be at various cabinets for installing people's FTTC ( i know because i was asking them questions even i did not know them) and have seen by my self they have both open cabinets (fibre & normal) and do works during instillation at both of them
Other case i have seen engineer just have open only one FTTC cabinet and the normal next of it close
100% sure
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my point at last quote is they can access the normal cabinet and FTTC cabinet BT or Openreach engineers
also at previous address had FTTC and iengineer called me when he was at cabinet so i pop down to my local cabinet
He had open FTTC and normal cabinet open during work(i was at cabinet 19 and 5 meters next of it the large FTTC)
With respect Babis
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27-07-2012, 22:46
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
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as i said i have seen them i am looking them every day passing next of them
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I look at cabinets too. What's your point?
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my point at last quote is they can access the normal cabinet and FTTC cabinet BT or Openreach engineers
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So some engineers can access some cabinets. It's pretty obvious and everyone knows that. I'm still not sure what your point is.
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27-07-2012, 22:56
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
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I look at cabinets too. What's your point?
So you've seen some engineers access some cabinets. What's your point?
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sorry perhaps too many quotes we miss understood
at you post number #1941 and Post added at 18:26
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post1941.html
you are replied to my quote with this:
They have zero control over the fibre. Even standard Openreach engineers (including those that install FTTC services) have zero control over the fibre, and can't even access the FTTC cabinet.
So that is my point
Thanks
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Originally Posted by babis3g
sorry perhaps too many quotes we miss understood
at you post number #1941 and Post added at 18:26
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post1941.html
you are replied to my quote with this:
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They have zero control over the fibre. Even standard Openreach engineers (including those that install FTTC services) have zero control over the fibre, and can't even access the FTTC cabinet.
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So that is my point
Thanks
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28-07-2012, 01:01
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
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So that is my point
Thanks
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There's still no point in your statement... You're simply repeating a vague version of what I said.
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29-07-2012, 23:27
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
Hi All
Am I been hit with Traffic Management?
Live Graph
Oh I am on 60 what was 30mb
The computer is using wfi
From My Linux Box with Cat5 Connection
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29-07-2012, 23:52
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
Not (STM) in the middle of the night. Was the computer running al night and was it downloading throughout the period?
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30-07-2012, 01:18
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
Yes My computer is running 24/7, running World Community Grid.
As for downloading no.
It has the same pattern wen the computers are Off for days, but I normally run them 24/7.
Could it have anything to do with the 2 TiVo boxs?
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