The anyone but England thread! - Page 13

Flobajob · 16-06-2006, 12:31

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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

This is superb, honestly, your absolute rubbish even with Rooney and your still happy.

I'd be raging at that result yesterday.

Come on the Sweden! (Change of Avatar coming shortly)

2 - Nil, that's a dreadful result alright

Could you remind everyone where your National team normally finishes in World Cup tournaments?

Russ · 16-06-2006, 12:33

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Originally Posted by orangebird

The only good side so far Russ has been Spain. And we haven't had to play them, so who cares?

Brazil, France, Holland, Argentina - England don't exactly gave a shining record against those? But as you say, who cares - it's not as if England will win the World Cup.

orangebird · 16-06-2006, 12:36

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Originally Posted by Russ D

Brazil, France, Holland, Argentina - England don't exactly gave a shining record against those?

Sorry Russ, but so far, with the games played in this tournament, none of the teams you've mentioned have played particularly well. Agreed, they've shone in the past, but the past doesn't count in the current tournament. And none of them so far are any better than england. Except for spain.

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But as you say, who cares - it's not as if England will win the World Cup.

We might, we might not. How are Wales doing?

idi banashapan · 16-06-2006, 12:36

AANVALLUH!!!! 'nuff said!

TheBlueRaja · 16-06-2006, 12:37

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Originally Posted by Flobajob

2 - Nil, that's a dreadful result alright

Could you remind everyone where your National team normally finishes in World Cup tournaments?

Going home, just like your lot.

And 2-0 is a dreaful result if you take it in the context of the way the game was played, up until 81 mins you hadnt done anything against the team that were 1000-1 outsiders (and hence the "worst team in the world cup" according to the bookies) to win the World Cup.

In fact they really could have been 1-0 up.

If your see that as a good sign going forward thats fine by me.

Russ · 16-06-2006, 12:37

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Originally Posted by orangebird

Sorry Russ, but so far, with the games played in this tournament, none of the teams you've mentioned have played particularly well. Agreed, they've shone in the past, but the past doesn't count in the current tournament. And none of them so far are any better than engalnd. Except for spain.

OK then, we'll just have to wait and see

TheBlueRaja · 16-06-2006, 12:38

How about Italy and Argentina OB - they have looked really good dont you think?

Definate threats there, perhaps even better looking that Brazil.

idi banashapan · 16-06-2006, 12:40

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And none of them so far are any better than engalnd.

With all due respect - GIVE OVER!!!! Why are England fans so blinkered on the whole (yes, that is a generalisation - but a fair one I feel, as I am unbias towards or against England, so it's something I have noticed over the years). They never seem to be able to see their faults and continue to bang on about the 1966 world cup (40 YEARS AGO NOW) and Maradonnas 'hand of God' (20 YEARS AGO - GET OVER IT!). I could go on about how the Netherlands have been cheated out of getting into the finals, but it happened and that's that - look forwards....

orangebird · 16-06-2006, 12:40

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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

Going home, just like your lot.

And 2-0 is a dreaful result if you take it in the context of the way the game was played, up until 81 mins you hadnt done anything against the team that were 1000-1 outsiders (and hence the "worst team in the world cup" according to the bookies) to win the World Cup.

We didn't convert, but we made some great chances, and I reckon possesion was well upn in the 80%'s

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In fact they really could have been 1-0 up.

Could've yes, but with some fabulous and inspired defending by Terry, they weren't. What's your point?

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If your see that as a good sign going forward thats fine by me.

qualifying with six points and a clean sheet is good enough for me. It doesn't have to be pretty, as long as we win. How are Scotland egtting on?

idi banashapan · 16-06-2006, 12:41

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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

How about Italy and Argentina OB - they have looked really good dont you think?

Definate threats there, perhaps even better looking that Brazil.

I agree totally.

orangebird · 16-06-2006, 12:44

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With all due respect - GIVE OVER!!!! Why are England fans so blinkered on the whole (yes, that is a generalisation - but a fair one I feel, as I am unbias towards or against England, so it's something I have noticed over the years). They never seem to be able to see their faults and continue to bang on about the 1966 world cup (40 YEARS AGO NOW) and Maradonnas 'hand of God' (20 YEARS AGO - GET OVER IT!). I could go on about how the Netherlands have been cheated out of getting into the finals, but it happened and that's that - look forwards....

I'm not blinkered and am well over the hand of god ****e. England haven't played great. IMO the only team that have is Spain. But we're through. I support England am I happy we're through, What's 'blinkered' about that?

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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

How about Italy and Argentina OB - they have looked really good dont you think?

Definate threats there, perhaps even better looking that Brazil.

This tournament? Indifferent IMO. Brazil were also shockingly poor. At the moment, England stand as good a chance as any.

danielf · 16-06-2006, 12:46

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Originally Posted by Bender

AANVALLUH!!!! 'nuff said!

idi banashapan · 16-06-2006, 12:47

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Originally Posted by orangebird

I'm not blinkered and am well over the hand of god ****e. England haven't played great. IMO the only team that have is Spain. But we're through. I support England am I happy we're through, What's 'blinkered' about that?

The blinkered bit was saying England look the best bar Spain - well no, they don't though, do they? As mentioned since, look at Italy and Argentina. They look very good right now. As for Brazil, they don't even bother trying until the knockouts. Why waste energy, right? I suppose I should mention Holland. They look ok. Probably the strongest team they have had since about 1992. Robben of course looks great, but needs to become more of a team player. There is a fair amount of youth in the team, and with that comes inexperience, but only time will give them that. I don't expect Holland to win this tournament, but they should reach the semi's. Personally, looking at England so far, I think the Quarters will be their last game. Sorry.

orangebird · 16-06-2006, 12:48

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Originally Posted by Russ D

OK then, we'll just have to wait and see

what's

for? Do you know something I don't? Can you see the result in your crystal ball?

danielf · 16-06-2006, 12:49

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Originally Posted by orangebird

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This tournament? Indifferent IMO. Brazil were also shockingly poor. At the moment, England stand as good a chance as any.

That is probably true (if England continue as they did in the last 30 mins). It is however, by no means a given that England will win it. And a lot of England supporters apear to think it is, and that really annoys me.