[Merged] PVR for NTL

[Tristan]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Thats odd, because while looking at the sky stand today I am pretty sure it stated on a board, " no phone required " in advertising their sky+ package, i just knew i should have had my camera on me.

*ALL* Sky packages require you to have the box permenantly connected to the phoneline for the first year for you to qualify for any introductory offers.

So no, you don't *have* to have it connected -- but if you don't, you'll be lumbered with a £200 bill for a Sky digibox (even more for Sky+), no free installation, no free Sports or Movies, etc etc etc....

Perhaps, when you take the picture, you ought to zoom in on the small print a little more

Originally Posted by SMHarman

And being an NTL customer, to prove i'm not making this up.
http://www.vonage-forum.com/author-robguk.html

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[garyparson]

What quarter in 2006 is this PVR meant to be showing up or is that too specific for NTL?

Originally Posted by Tristan

*ALL* Sky packages require you to have the box permenantly connected to the phoneline for the first year for you to qualify for any introductory offers.

So no, you don't *have* to have it connected -- but if you don't, you'll be lumbered with a £200 bill for a Sky digibox (even more for Sky+), no free installation, no free Sports or Movies, etc etc etc....

Perhaps, when you take the picture, you ought to zoom in on the small print a little more

I already know what you're saying, but I was looking at it from a mis selling point of view.

With regard zooming in on the picture, it was not an official type of wording in the " requires no phone " it looked as if the guy had just got a piece of everyday card and written on it in green marker, and I was close enough not to need the zoom so defo no small print.
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Originally Posted by SMHarman

You cannot use PPV services (beyond £50) without a phone line as it needs to call the bill home (the return path on NTL does this). Where you get sky multiroom all boxes have to call home from the same CLI line to prove to Sky that they are all in the same house, else you could get multiroom and give the second box to your mate.
And being an NTL customer, to prove i'm not making this up.
http://www.vonage-forum.com/author-robguk.html
http://vonage.co.uk/help.php?article=922

On the second point, I'm willing to raise you to £50 to charity, that NTL will have a PVR service before Sky has a BB service, or should that be a proper VOD service? The reason, Sky should be quicker to market with HD as they only have to change what they uplink from one head end to the Astra sat, PVR requires funamentally more work than that.

Sorry bud, the bet was over pvr vs hd television, not broadband.
Certain people here seem very confident that pvr will be rolled out to everyone quite soon, sky are saying they will be putting out hd next year, regardless of infrastructure required my offer is still there, £10 that ntl will not have pvr rolled out to all customers before sky put out HD.

If NTL pull it off I will gladly give a tenner to cancer research, anyone else ?
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Originally Posted by SMHarman

You cannot use PPV services (beyond £50) without a phone line as it needs to call the bill home (the return path on NTL does this). Where you get sky multiroom all boxes have to call home from the same CLI line to prove to Sky that they are all in the same house, else you could get multiroom and give the second box to your mate.
And being an NTL customer, to prove i'm not making this up.
http://www.vonage-forum.com/author-robguk.html
http://vonage.co.uk/help.php?article=922

On the second point, I'm willing to raise you to £50 to charity, that NTL will have a PVR service before Sky has a BB service, or should that be a proper VOD service? The reason, Sky should be quicker to market with HD as they only have to change what they uplink from one head end to the Astra sat, PVR requires funamentally more work than that.

[King Of Fools]

Telewest plans DVR, HDTV launch for early 2006

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds26156.html

Telewest is to become the first operator to launch HDTV into the UK.

The company has outlined plans for 'TV Drive', a new DVR product that will be available to all Telewest subscribers within the first quarter of 2006 and a "selected" number of customers next month.

The set-top box will boast three tuners - one more than Sky's PVR product, Sky+ - allowing viewers to simultaneously record two programmes while watching a third. It features a 160Gb hard drive, enabling up to 80 hours of storage.

TV Drive will cost an extra £10 to £15 per month, depending on the services taken. The existing set-top box can be kept as a second unit for £5 per month or, from later in 2006, for a one-off payment.

The HDTV service will launch at the same time as the DVR product, giving it a three to four month jump on Sky's planned offering. Telewest CFO Neil Smith revealed that movie and drama content had already been signed from Pathé and the BBC but refused to elaborate further on planned HD programming.

Meanwhile, the company will also launch a VOIP service in 2006 and - post merger with NTL - will explore becoming a "quad-play" provider with a new mobile service.

Well the money is still on the table

It's all propaganda to keep up the interest, imo.

[garyparson]

Originally Posted by King Of Fools

a new mobile service.

Jack of all trades

MASTER OF NON.

No wonder I haven't got vod or a pvr yet, they're too busy sticking fingers in every pie available.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by garyparson

Jack of all trades

MASTER OF NON.

No wonder I haven't got vod or a pvr yet, they're too busy sticking fingers in every pie available.

Funnily enough the above comment was about Telewest and not Ntl. They haven't merged just yet.

But hey don't let that stop you sticking the knife in and trying to put them down. Although in fairness at least you didn't mention your popping sound (for once)

Originally Posted by garyparson

Jack of all trades

MASTER OF NON.

No wonder I haven't got vod or a pvr yet, they're too busy sticking fingers in every pie available.

It is not a bad thing sticking your finger in every pie available, it is just that when it involves someone paying for the service, it helps if it works before it comes out, I do hear there are problems with the VOD ? regarding the people who are sampling it? take this sample figure of problems, do nothing about it, mass produce the product, hand them out to all who want them and you have bigger problems which leads to poor customer satisfaction which in turn leads to cancellations, which leads to money problems for NTL or any company who take exactly the same route.

[ntl.wotcha]

Interesting quote for ya, about BBC HD trials (lifted from another forum so not sure of exact source)...

The BBC will simulcast some of its most popular programmes in the HD format from next year, it was announced today.

Under the plans, "highlights" of BBC One's primetime schedule will air in HD to a limited audience of early adopters.

The twelve month trial will involve all three platforms - satellite, cable and terrestrial - as and when the respective HDTV services launch. Sky is expected to be first off the block with a premium HDTV launch in April while the newly-merged NTL and Telewest will follow at the end of 2006.

[Tristan]

This is, of course, broadcast HDTV. There is nothing whatsoever stopping NTL/TW doing HD VOD before this, and I beleive Telewest have stated that they're going to offer this first.

[garyparson]

Originally Posted by dezzo

Funnily enough the above comment was about Telewest and not Ntl. They haven't merged just yet.

In a couple of months that comment will be as irrelevant as you.

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Originally Posted by dezzo

But hey don't let that stop you sticking the knife in and trying to put them down.

I won't cos they deserve it every time. I'm entitled to my opinion, if you like it or not. That's just tough.

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Originally Posted by dezzo

Although in fairness at least you didn't mention your popping sound (for once)

That's cos they took three years to fix something that wasn't broke til they cocked it up. If it affects me, and it did, i'll complian til i get a working service that i'm paying near £100 a month for. It's my right. End of.

I await your drivel.

Originally Posted by garyparson

I await your drivel.

You found your way out from under the bridge again. ?

[garyparson]

Originally Posted by Bill C

You found your way out from under the bridge again. ?

This IS a forum isn't it? Look forum up in a dictionary. And when someone whinges that my comment isn't on topic, feel free to read what i quoted before you do.

[Nemesis]

Gary .... Back off now ... there was NO need for your comment, and if you continue, I may have to press some particular buttons.

Warned you have been ...