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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Things "not adding up" seems to be a common theme in the explanation of these stories coming out. Rayner, Reeves, Haigh.
Probably best for any Labour MP to stay on the backbenches, in order to avoid too much scrutiny.
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They need to start upgrading their phones, losing their whatsapp messages, learning some useful latin phrases or even look for a handy fridge to shelter in to help with that.
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30-11-2024, 20:58
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Commons is no place for lawbreakers, send them to the Lords! Or follow the prime minister and don't do what I say , and i,ll just ignore it. Will he ask her to resign her seat , no chance
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01-12-2024, 00:44
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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who are you and where is chris
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Unlike Haigh, I believe Chris's phone has genuinely been stolen.
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01-12-2024, 07:00
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Commons is no place for lawbreakers, send them to the Lords! Or follow the prime minister and don't do what I say , and i,ll just ignore it. Will he ask her to resign her seat , no chance
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Erm…she has resigned
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01-12-2024, 08:31
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Erm…she has resigned
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Only as Minister, not as MP.
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01-12-2024, 08:45
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Only as Minister, not as MP.
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Ah right. Well that’s not the done thing is it? The Tories set the standard. Apologise, step down from the cabinet for a few months (but not as an MP) then pop back up when it all blows over. Them’s the rules now!
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01-12-2024, 09:43
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
I think the commons can be a place for people with a criminal conviction but it should be known by the voters and also spent. If you're breaking the law when you're an MP then you should be out obviously.
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This is going to be a big problem for Labour but also the Tories: https://archive.ph/5JaoM
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This weekend, leading businessmen and Conservative Party officials believe there is a credible prospect that Musk is preparing to give $100 million (£78 million) to Farage as a “f you Starmer payment” with a view to transforming British politics.
Such a move could obliterate the Conservative Party as the main challenger to Labour before Kemi Badenoch, the new leader of the opposition, has made her mark.
It would also open the door to near-limitless anti-government advertisements from Reform.
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Elon Musk has more than enough money to completely dominate UK politics which usually doesn't spend anywhere near the levels they're used to in the US. It'll be pocket money for him. It will completely dwarf all the other parties where a couple of million is the typical 'massive' donation. Reform would be Man City to Labour/Tories Norwich city.
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01-12-2024, 10:01
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Damien
I think the commons can be a place for people with a criminal conviction but it should be known by the voters and also spent. If you're breaking the law when you're an MP then you should be out obviously.
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This is going to be a big problem for Labour but also the Tories: https://archive.ph/5JaoM
Elon Musk has more than enough money to completely dominate UK politics which usually doesn't spend anywhere near the levels they're used to in the US. It'll be pocket money for him. It will completely dwarf all the other parties where a couple of million is the typical 'massive' donation. Reform would be Man City to Labour/Tories Norwich city.
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Just shows how dangerous Musk is. No one show have that much wealth with all the power & entitlement that comes with it. You can seen how he helped buy the US presidency for Trump.
We should have a law that donations to UK political parties (over a certain amount) can only come from UK citizens.
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01-12-2024, 10:26
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Just shows how dangerous Musk is. No one show have that much wealth with all the power & entitlement that comes with it. You can seen how he helped buy the US presidency for Trump.
We should have a law that donations to UK political parties (over a certain amount) can only come from UK citizens.
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we could call it "the only people that ian aproves of can donate to the parties ian aproves of bill "
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01-12-2024, 11:12
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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we could call it "the only people that ian aproves of can donate to the parties ian aproves of bill "
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I do think only UK citizens should be able to donate. That's why he is going to work around it but using Twitter's UK business to do it - if he does.
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01-12-2024, 11:20
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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I do think only UK citizens should be able to donate. That's why he is going to work around it but using Twitter's UK business to do it - if he does.
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he could just apply for citizenship, is there any actual proof about this alleged donation?
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Unlike Haigh, I believe Chris's phone has genuinely been stolen. 
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ask him to take a photo of it as proof
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01-12-2024, 11:50
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Ah right. Well that’s not the done thing is it? The Tories set the standard. Apologise, step down from the cabinet for a few months (but not as an MP) then pop back up when it all blows over. Them’s the rules now!
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Double standards just think what labour would be screaming when in opposition. More to the point it really calls the PMs judgement, if true that he knew all about what happened.
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01-12-2024, 12:06
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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he could just apply for citizenship, is there any actual proof about this alleged donation?
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No, the article is saying that some Tories and businessmen fear it's going to happen. They're not saying what they know as how likely it is.
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01-12-2024, 13:58
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by ianch99
Just shows how dangerous Musk is. No one show have that much wealth with all the power & entitlement that comes with it. You can seen how he helped buy the US presidency for Trump.
We should have a law that donations to UK political parties (over a certain amount) can only come from UK citizens.
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He’s certainly dangerous in terms of the aspirations of the leftist parties and their supporters who are doing irretrievable damage to our way of life and our identity.
Typical of you to want our last hope of salvation from establishment politicians whom the people have rejected silenced once and for all.
There will be a massive political swing rightwards at the next General Election if Labour doesn’t ban democracy by then. The right-minded people of this country have had enough.
Reform UK is now the future for us, and thank heavens for that. The future’s bright. The future’s orange……
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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we could call it "the only people that ian aproves of can donate to the parties ian aproves of bill "
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