[Update] Fuel tanker drivers vote to strike

It was advice, not compulsory - funny how people refuse to follow other guidance, but feel the need to use the fact they were following this advice as an excuse for leaving their brains at home.

Common sense, people - try it, you might like it......

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Hugh

It was advice, not compulsory - funny how people refuse to follow other guidance, but feel the need to use the fact they were following this advice as an excuse for leaving their brains at home.

Common sense, people - try it, you might like it......

O come on Hugh if it gives the Labour lovies something to complain about you know they will milk it all the way, this was no different to being advised not to smoke, but they still use selection and go for smoking and stinking us all out. Hypocrites if you ask me.

Waits for the BUT I DONT SMOKE, I used smoking as an example and i could have used any advise that we selectively ignore depending on using our COMMON sense which sadly has gone out the windows over panic buying of fuel.

Here was me thinking adults had common sense

Originally Posted by mertle

LOL HUGH cant fault for trying

Good news normality come at last about 5pm last night zombie mode got switched off.

Finally government act remove the advice.

According to Psychologist Dr Clifford Stott: "It's individualistic, selfish behaviour that's leading to demand" Its not should not be termed panic buy its human nature.

You will blow a vain in your head if you dont calm down

[Arthurgray50@blu]

The good question is the fact that what people don't realise is that since there is NO TAKER DRIVER STRIKE at the moment, there has been a ballot for strike action.

BUT, since it was announced we have had advice from the TORY party on what to do, what has happened.

Queues at at garages, The Tories gave advice on what to do, by filling up jerry cans, and save what you can - we have now a woman seriously ill in hospital, the Fire Service gave advice on not to carry out out what the Tories have said.

What has happened, the Government has won, it has millions in fuel duty comes in and NOT ONE Tory has apologised for the ill advice.

Next thing we will have is Cigarette makers will go on strike, what will happen then, queue's at shops and supermarkets will run out - and the government will smile again with all that revenue coming in - That idiot has been playing games with the country, and again we are the loser's.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

The good question is the fact that what people don't realise is that since there is NO TAKER DRIVER STRIKE at the moment, there has been a ballot for strike action.

BUT, since it was announced we have had advice from the TORY party on what to do, what has happened.

Queues at at garages, The Tories gave advice on what to do, by filling up jerry cans, and save what you can - we have now a woman seriously ill in hospital, the Fire Service gave advice on not to carry out out what the Tories have said.

What has happened, the Government has won, it has millions in fuel duty comes in and NOT ONE Tory has apologised for the ill advice.

Next thing we will have is Cigarette makers will go on strike, what will happen then, queue's at shops and supermarkets will run out - and the Government will smile again with all that revenue coming in - That idiot has been playing games with the country, and again we are the loser's.

So was you one of the idiots that went and queued for fuel Arthur like a good little Sheeple, Are you not able to make up your own mind or do you do everything a Government ADVISES.


Sheeple you have got to love them

Dang it, you're right Arthur, let's all go and vote for the party bankrolled by the union that's threatening the strike instead. I'm sure they have the inside track on exactly when Red Len plans to hold us all hostage, their advice is bound to be better informed.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Chris

Dang it, you're right Arthur, let's all go and vote for the party bankrolled by the union that's threatening the strike instead. I'm sure they have the inside track on exactly when Red Len plans to hold us all hostage, their advice is bound to be better informed.

Every time i hear a Labour man saying bring back Labour i instead hear him say Look how nicely Labour crap on us and the country.

Memories are so short these days, I still hear Brown calling a voter a Bigget, I still see all those names of young men dead because Labour Lied so we could bomb little brown people with oil. Short memories indeed.

Interesting snippet in a story in today's Times (behind pay wall).

Unite said yesterday that it was focusing on the talks with Acas. It would have to give the fuel-tanker companies seven days’ notice of any strike action. The union, which is representing staff from seven of the biggest haulage companies, wants them to offer the same industry-wide terms and conditions, covering pay and matters such as safety and training.

The Road Haulage Association said that the union had still not given details of the common standards being proposed. The haulage companies have not yet all committed to attending the talks of Monday?.....

.......One expert on industrial relations said that trying to introduce an industry-wide pay structure would be particularly contentious. Andy Cook, chief executive of Marshall-James, an employee relations adviser, said: “It’s hard to see how this dispute can be resolved. There is a massive gulf between what the unions are demanding and what the haulage firms will realistically be prepared to offer. Asking the industry to offer the same terms to drivers is like telling Tesco, Asda and Sainsbury’s to pay check-out staff the same.”

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

The good question is the fact that what people don't realise is that since there is NO TAKER DRIVER STRIKE at the moment, there has been a ballot for strike action.

BUT, since it was announced we have had advice from the TORY party on what to do, what has happened.

Queues at at garages, The Tories gave advice on what to do, by filling up jerry cans, and save what you can - we have now a woman seriously ill in hospital, the Fire Service gave advice on not to carry out out what the Tories have said.

What has happened, the Government has won, it has millions in fuel duty comes in and NOT ONE Tory has apologised for the ill advice.

Next thing we will have is Cigarette makers will go on strike, what will happen then, queue's at shops and supermarkets will run out - and the government will smile again with all that revenue coming in - That idiot has been playing games with the country, and again we are the loser's.

Arthur, mate - go purchase some Diazepam; anti-panic buying.....

Originally Posted by Hugh

Interesting snippet in a story in today's Times (behind pay wall).

Naturally ... Red Len can sit back and demand his socialist utopia, safe in the knowledge that there is absolutely no way a group of independent, competing companies are ever going to agree to a set of binding terms and conditions encompassing their entire industry. He gets to be true to his clean socialist principles and he gets his class war with the nasty Tory toff in Number 10 at the same time. It's a win-win for Red Len the Labour banker and screw the rest of us.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Chris

Naturally ... Red Len can sit back and demand his socialist utopia, safe in the knowledge that there is absolutely no way a group of independent, competing companies are ever going to agree to a set of binding terms and conditions encompassing their entire industry. He gets to be true to his clean socialist principles and he gets his class war with the nasty Tory toff in Number 10 at the same time. It's a win-win for Red Len the Labour banker and screw the rest of us.

Pretty well sums it up. Labour are to weak and ineffective to mount any real opposition so they get there mates the Unions to fight there wars for them.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Pretty well sums it up. Labour are to weak and ineffective to mount any real opposition so they get there mates the Unions to fight there wars for them.

they don't need the unions -the tory's are creating enough panic and chaos with their advice

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

they don't need the unions -the tory's are creating enough panic and chaos with their advice

Yes indeed and you wonder when their next calamitious cock-up will come.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Horray, l like it when l get comments like this, No l didn't queue for petrol, l am not that stupid.

I start work at 5am in the morning, and there was no one at the garage when l turn up there. I fill my car once a week and that's fine for me.

People who panic buy, make it worse for other people, BUT this is caused by stupid comments you hear on Tv. Its like the last time when Bakers were going on strike, what happened - panic buying, but people did the right thing and bought for making bread at home, and by god does it taste nice.

I think all parties are bad as each other, at the next election l am not voting, as they all talk a load of tosh, l was thinking of standing myself.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

l was thinking of standing myself.

God help us all ,with you and gorgeous george in parliament we got no chance

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I think all parties are bad as each other, at the next election l am not voting, as they all talk a load of tosh.

Have to agree there i have no intention of voting ever again. I will attend the vote but write i have no faith in the thieving expense stealing **** on my voting slip .

[mertle]

Telegraph get leak about the reasoning for the governments thinking.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-anything.html

But now that I have heard the Conservatives’ private explanation, which is being handed down to constituency associations by MPs, I begin to feel angry.

The private message is as follows. “This is our Thatcher moment. In order to defeat the coming miners’ strike, she stockpiled coal. When the strike came, she weathered it, and the Labour Party, tarred by the strike, was humiliated. In order to defeat the coming fuel drivers’ strike, we want supplies of petrol stockpiled. Then, if the strike comes, we will weather it, and Labour, in hock to the Unite union, will be blamed.”

There is a key difference which ministers have not spotted. When Mrs Thatcher piled up the coal at power stations until the strike began in 1984, she was not inconveniencing the public. In 2012, the Coalition is trying to press-gang the public, without saying so, into its political battles. All those people queuing on the forecourts were pawns in a Government-organised blame-game.

Why they thought this way beyond me agree with telegraph's Charles Moore's comments that there was differences. To use people animal instinct as political porn was little underhand.

I doubt it will go down well that they willing to have potential fighting road rage incidents which was possible. Indeed it problems occured in places it got heated as people got acused greed and queue jumping. Government used human instincts created a desperation to get fuel. People could been put in situation of losing there jobs all for the sake of political monoverings to try turn the heat on labour.

This ended up mitigating own goal it wont go down with people that it was planned tactic.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Have to agree there i have no intention of voting ever again. I will attend the vote but write i have no faith in the thieving expense stealing **** on my voting slip .

dont throw it away I know all three parties **** to highest order but its still precious to vote.

Even if you vote non descript party individual thats better protest than spoiling.

You could always vote arthur none of above