"Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime"

[Tezcatlipoca]

21 months for killing someone

Yeah impressive isn't it doesn't it make you glad to be british and feel protected by the law.

[SMG]

What a disgrace. Again, the deterrent fails. No wonder people break the law. No deterrent. Another life taken unnecessarily.

[Derek]

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....r_escapes_jail

20. Already been banned for drink driving and has previous convictions for violence.

Performs hand-brake turns on a motorway then attacks a cop by punching him in the face, smashing his glasses and kicking him in the head.

And for this he gets a driving ban and two years conditional discharge.

That'll teach him. I wonder what the judge will say when the mythical Irish job turns out to be a work of fiction.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Derek S

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....r_escapes_jail

20. Already been banned for drink driving and has previous convictions for violence.

Performs hand-brake turns on a motorway then attacks a cop by punching him in the face, smashing his glasses and kicking him in the head.

And for this he gets a driving ban and two years conditional discharge.

That'll teach him. I wonder what the judge will say when the mythical Irish job turns out to be a work of fiction.

It's a good job there were independent witnesses and CCTV to confirm all this Derek or the cops involved could've just made it all up?....

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7885674.stm

Let's hope the result is a significant increase!

[Osem]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7917958.stm

[Derek]

But a probation officer interviewed for the study said those under the orders left court "laughing their heads off".

Thats not really news. Community Orders *could* be exceptionally useful but they'll never be tough enough to have the required effect. If people can continue to pick and choose what they'll do. Muck around when on placements and generally treat them with contempt without any comeback they'll continue to be seen as an easy option.

I don't know of anyone who has been jailed as a result of breaching a community service order

[Osem]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7912105.stm

Given his appalling record, perhaps if the authorities had been a tad tougher on our knife wielding thug, Rob Knox would still be alive. I wonder what sentence will be imposed this time?....

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Osem

perhaps if the authorities had been a tad tougher on our knife wielding thug, Rob Knox would still be alive. I wonder what sentence will be imposed this time?....

He's now got 20 years. He seemed quite keen to get to prison when first arrested if his comments are anything to go by, I wonder if his tune will change now.

But in December 2004 he slashed the same man and his friend with a knife as they waited at a taxi rank in Bromley.
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Bishop was sentenced to four years in a young offender institute in May 2005 after being convicted of GBH. He was released on licence in March 2007.

Now if he was kept on remand for this he's still getting out just over half-way through his sentence and would still have been on license when he killed. As he was also wanted for a previous knife attack I wonder why he hadn't been returned to jail.

[Osem]

Queue jump killers sentenced:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7975921.stm

[punky]

Before, someone threw a bowel in anger and got 18 years. Now that queue jump killer woman gets 18 months and the bloke gets 4 years? WTF is that about?

[Derek]

Remember the plan to get people doing community service to wear jackets so people would know they are doing their punishment?

Well its going about as well as any other plan thats come from the Government in recent years.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6226345.ece

Originally Posted by The Times

A convicted teenager who refused to wear a high visibility jacket labelled "Community Payback" was today told by a court that he had a "reasonable excuse".
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“It advertises that you have done something wrong and you don’t want the whole world to know,” he told the court during his trial last month.

[Dai]

Originally Posted by Derek S

Remember the plan to get people doing community service to wear jackets so people would know they are doing their punishment?

Well its going about as well as any other plan thats come from the Government in recent years.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6226345.ece

"After being sentenced, Beales had signed an agreement which did not include the requirement to wear the jackets, the court heard.

The Government introduced the “Community Payback� jackets three months later, in December, to boost public confidence in community sentences. "


I'd say the judge was right given the circumstances. I'd still like to see tar and feathers back in the list of options along with the stocks but in this case I guess he's entitled to demand the rules in force at the time of sentencing should apply.

[punky]

Its *******s that he claims to be feeling "embarassed" Scrotes like are normally all over Facebook posing with their arsenal. They require the infamy that they are violent convicted criminals.

On the off chance he is telling the truth, then hopefully the Steisand Effect will kick in and screw him that way.

He may be able to worm out of this by saying to can't retroactively change punishments (jackets weren't included in the deal he agreed. Funny that, you have to agree on punishments these days?), but hopefully jackets (preferably bring pink with pictures of penises on) will be made part of every future "agreement".

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by punky

but hopefully jackets (preferably bring pink with pictures of penises on) will be made part of every future "agreement".

Gets my vote