Relationships and religion

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Drudge

I gave up christianity but the still try to live by the priciples bred into me and enhanced by my parents teaching unlike some on here

I totally agree with you, my ex's parents are catholics, and truly try to live as you say, by doing the right thing, helping others, being genuine.
I have a lot of respect for them because of that.

But like you, I see many "christians" as hypocrites, dressing up for church simply to out do others. As I've said before, many see it as a one day a week religion.
I have little respect for these people.
In fact I live a more moral life than many of them, yet as an athiest they've seen me as someone who'd like to lead their children astray!

[Tiptoes]

drudge maybe........ dredd certainly not....

I counldnt concur with your view more Sir................

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Tiptoes

drudge maybe........ dredd certainly not....

Grud! Give me strength

[Bex]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

I totally agree with you, my ex's parents are catholics, and truly try to live as you say, by doing the right thing, helping others, being genuine.
I have a lot of respect for them because of that.

But like you, I see many "christians" as hypocrites, dressing up for church simply to out do others. As I've said before, many see it as a one day a week religion.
I have little respect for these people.
In fact I live a more moral life than many of them, yet as an athiest they've seen me as someone who'd like to lead their children astray!

i would agree with you i find a lot of christians hypocritical, and yes i am not a "perfect" christian but they do not exist.......the point of being a christian is to try to be more christ-like....so please don't make comments and call me a hypocritc (you know who i mean) i have never claimed to be perfect, i have never claimed to be a wonderful person but i do try my best to help those around me and live a moral life.....

[Bex]

Originally Posted by Drudge

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2. THINK.....PROTESTETH....TOO.....I.....THOU......MU CH


Rearrange the words to produce well known sayings.

i have had just about enough of your little digs now....if you dont like me then fine, don't read my posts......but STOP this now because i have had enough

We who donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t believe in god canââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t understand why people who call themselves Christians seem to think they can get away with anything & still go to heaven when they die., They seem to think just because they accept Jesus they can sin all the way though their lives & just because they think Jesus is their saviour they will get into this mythical heaven

But none believers can lead a very good & honest lives, never hurt anyone never sleep around & be very kind to others as we can but just because we refused to accept that there is a god, according to christians we will be sent straight down to hell. This is a very peculiar philosophy

[Bex]

Originally Posted by Drudge

As PMs are forbidden. Please take this to email or MSN

i do not understand what u are talking about????

[Bex]

Originally Posted by Drudge

In the post referred to and the previous NO NAMES were mentioned. Only those who perhaps can see themselves reflected in my post would react.

Ask your close friend about PMs.

I notice also that you have amended your sig. ???????

i believe that i am allowed to change my sig, when and if i want.....

i am not going to discuss this with you any further but stop making digs at me, even if they are vague ones it is not appropriate and it is harrassment

Drudge if you wish to keep your posting rights I would suggest that you stop annoying other members and keep this thread on topic. Thanks.

[Bex]

Originally Posted by Drudge

Please Vexy, I am a very mild mannered person and become very upset by these little tantrums. Please do not attack me like that in public.

i am not attacking you, you are the one whom has been posting comments which are directed at me......i am just asking you to back off and stop posting comments like this......there is no attack

Now, now children play nicely

[Russ]

Originally Posted by dieselking

We who donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t believe in god canââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t understand why people who call themselves Christians seem to think they can get away with anything & still go to heaven when they die., They seem to think just because they accept Jesus they can sin all the way though their lives & just because they think Jesus is their saviour they will get into this mythical heaven

That is not the case at all. I can only suggest you've been listening to the wrong people. We have NEVER said we can get away with anything.

[Bex]

Originally Posted by Russ D

That is not the case at all. I can only suggest you've been listening to the wrong people. We have NEVER said we can get away with anything.

i don't know about the other christians here, but when i do something which i know God would not like me to be doing i end up feeling ten times worse than i ever did about doing it before i was born-again.........but saying that we, as christians, are still tempted just like everyone else, but i always feel as though i have disappointed my heavenly Father and thus feel worse than if i did not have Him and His guidence

Originally Posted by dieselking

We who donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t believe in god canââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t understand why people who call themselves Christians seem to think they can get away with anything & still go to heaven when they die., They seem to think just because they accept Jesus they can sin all the way though their lives & just because they think Jesus is their saviour they will get into this mythical heaven

But none believers can lead a very good & honest lives, never hurt anyone never sleep around & be very kind to others as we can but just because we refused to accept that there is a god, according to christians we will be sent straight down to hell. This is a very peculiar philosophy

Hi DK ... any Christian you have met who thinks the fact that they have been 'saved' and get 'forgiven' means they can do whatever they like and still go to heaven is completely deluded, and you will be doing them a favour if you tell them that! Around the time the New Testament of the Bible was being written, some people were going round saying that the fact they were so bad was giving God a chance to prove how good and forgiving he is, so therefore it must be a good thing to be bad, in order to give God a continuing reason to show off his 'grace'. St Paul, who wrote much of the New Testament, got very angry about this and said of those people, 'their condemnation is just'.

Elsewhere, Jesus made it clear that the people who get into heaven at the end of it all are those who knew him, and who proved they knew him by living on Earth in the way he did. Of course, we're not perfect, and we still sin - I've made some fine messes in my life and I'm sure I'll make more - but making a mistake is a whole lot different than knowingly choosing a lifestyle that doesn't match up to the faith we profess.

As for the 'rules' for getting into heaven - it's not peculiar when you look at it from God's point of view. Heaven is his home; he is perfect and his home is perfect. He is quite entitled to decide who should be allowed to live there. As a matter of fact, no-one is allowed to live there of their own right - God is 100% perfect, heaven is 100% perfect, so anyone who lives there will have to be 100% perfect in order not to bring the place down. Because even a good person can't say they've gone their entire life without ever doing a single thing wrong, even a good person can't go to heaven. It's not a case of your good outweighing your bad - it's 100% good or nothing. And seeing as that means it's nothing for all of us, God made another way - forgiveness for us by punishing Jesus, who suffered separation from God so that when we die, if we have accepted what he did for us, we don't have to suffer that separation ourselves.

Sorry for climbing into the pulpit like that, but I really want you to know what the Bible does say about this so that you understand where we're coming from, and so that you can tell the difference between a Christian and a religious hypocrite.

[Bex]

wow towny another wonderful, inspiring and encouraging post from you..... you really do know your stuff

would it be ok if i pm'd you and asked you a few questions?