U.S Election 2020

Back on topic, please.

Originally Posted by pip08456

A further 17 states have joined the Texas fun.



Amicus Curiae: A person that is not a party to a particular litigation but that is permitted by the court to advise it in respect to some matter of law that directly affects the case in question

Now two imaginary States have filed an Amicus Brief in support...

(No, I’m not making it up).

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrews...h=154a679b24a8

Imaginary States ‘New Nevada,’ ‘New California’ File Brief Supporting Texas Lawsuit To Overturn Election

A group of separatist movements attempting to create a “New California State” and “New Nevada State” filed an amicus brief on Friday in support of a Supreme Court lawsuit brought by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton aimed at overturning the results of the presidential election.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketP...2020-12-11.pdf

Only in America ....

Supreme Court denies Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton's attempt to overturn the outcome of the election.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...3337/order.pdf

TEXAS V. PENNSYLVANIA, ET AL.
The State of Texas’s motion for leave to file a bill of complaint is denied for lack of standing under Article III of the Constitution. Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections. All other pending motions are dismissed as moot.

The Texas AG won’t be getting his pardon.

I wonder if Alito, Coney Barrett, Gorsuch, Kavanagh and Thomas have joined the Deep State conspiracy...

[jfman]

Always thought the Supreme Court wouldn't get involved which is why I wasn't too bothered by ACB's rushed confirmation in terms of the election.

They are lifetime appointees. They don't owe anyone anything. While some are socially (and politically) conservative do I think they'd bring themselves and their Court into disrepute by overturning a legitimate election? Eh, probably not.

[pip08456]

You would think that would be the end of it but there's more.

Rudy Giuliani:

“The case wasn’t rejected on the merits, the case was rejected on standing. So the answer to that is to bring the case now to the district court by the president, by some of the electors, alleging some of the same facts where there would be standing,” he said in a Friday interview on Newsmax.

“There’s nothing that prevents us from filing these cases immediately in the district court in which the president of course would have standing, some of the electors would have standing in that their constitutional rights have been violated,” he added.

“We’re not finished,” he concluded. "Believe me.”

https://thehill.com/regulation/court...e-court-defeat

Also

[Sephiroth]

What’s that got to do with the US election results?

This whole thing has been American institutions holding up when the politicians let them down. It's depressing how many Republicans signed onto an attempt to overturn an election after they couldn't prove fraud.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

This whole thing has been American institutions holding up when the politicians let them down. It's depressing how many Republicans signed onto an attempt to overturn an election after they couldn't prove fraud.

I would be interested to know how many Republicans in the US geninely feel the election is fraudulent and those Republicans who don't but are just trying it on.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I would be interested to know how many Republicans in the US geninely feel the election is fraudulent and those Republicans who don't but are just trying it on.

It's not just that - Trump has a very large base of supporters, and has been seen in the past, if you're not completely for him, you're against him, and that way lies de-selection challenges.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I would be interested to know how many Republicans in the US geninely feel the election is fraudulent and those Republicans who don't but are just trying it on.

According to a recent Economist/YouGov Poll, three-quarters (75%) of registered voters think voter fraud occurred during the 2020 presidential election.

Two in five registered voters think enough voter fraud occurred in this election to influence the outcome

https://today.yougov.com/topics/poli...ccurred-2020-p

Originally Posted by papa smurf

According to a recent Economist/YouGov Poll, three-quarters (75%) of registered voters think voter fraud occurred during the 2020 presidential election.

Two in five registered voters think enough voter fraud occurred in this election to influence the outcome

https://today.yougov.com/topics/poli...ccurred-2020-p

81% of the side that lost thought there was enough fraud to influence the outcome...

Originally Posted by Damien

This whole thing has been American institutions holding up when the politicians let them down. It's depressing how many Republicans signed onto an attempt to overturn an election after they couldn't prove fraud.

The election results are not legitimate. Fraud occurred on a massive scale, Trump was winning on the night of the election results, then suddenly, all key States stopped counting, then between 3 and 4am hundreds of thousands of ballots all went for Biden, it is statistically impossible unless cheating and most of those ballots just had votes for the presidency, ballots contain choices for House of Representatives and the Senate. None of these ballots had choices for these houses.

Republicans gained substantially in the House of Representatives, but lost the presidency, makes no fecking sense, but does if cheating is involved. I will never accept Biden’s win as legitimate, like I said yesterday, so many of the never Trumpers, even on here never accepted Trumps win, well I can play that ****ing game too. The pathetic ******* Democrats can reap what they sow, they started this bullshit in 2016, but just watch Biden wreck everything up on the foreign stage, with wars starting again in the Middle East and China increasing its Dominance, given how friendly Biden is with the CCP.

[jfman]

Mick using the logic that the House results don't match the Presidential one is completely illogical. There's plenty of times throughout history where a President has been elected but the opposing party has won races down the ballot. Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Bush all had Democratic Houses.

Where people aren't completely polarised by conspiracy theories and nationalist propaganda there's a percentage of people who routinely split their vote in the United States viewing that as an important check and balance within the system. These numbers may not be massive, but they don't need to be. They just need to swing enough races in the middle.

Not getting the result you want ≠ a fix.

Originally Posted by jfman

Mick using the logic that the House results don't match the Presidential one is completely illogical. There's plenty of times throughout history where a President has been elected but the opposing party has won races down the ballot. Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Bush all had Democratic Houses.

Where people aren't completely polarised by conspiracy theories and nationalist propaganda there's a percentage of people who routinely split their vote in the United States viewing that as an important check and balance within the system. These numbers may not be massive, but they don't need to be. They just need to swing enough races in the middle.

Not getting the result you want ≠ a fix.

Oh I agree, but I’m playing by the never Trumpers rule book now.