Madeleine McCann

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Curious the zeal with which they persue others who do not dance to their tune.

I would too. If that had happened to my child and I was then subjected to the abuse and allegations they have had, I'd be outraged and out for blood.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I'm sure that the thousands of motorists who have been 'done' for speeding do not consider themselves 'maniacs'.

My wife got caught out doing 33 mph in a 30 mile an hour zone. Does that constitute the driving of a 'maniac'?. It's dangerous driving rather than speeding we should be concentrating on.

The police have got their priorities out of synch with public opinion and this needs to be rectified.

I'm sure they don't and it's perfectly obvious that some will be far more serious offenders than others. Part of the problem we have on our roads is people who believe they're good drivers and clearly aren't - check out any number of the police documentaries on our screens and you will see them in abundance denying they've done stuff which is clear for all to see on video. Had your wife been doing 60 in a 30 her treatment would have been far more severe than it was so the scale of punishments takes the severity of the offence into account doesn't it. I'd imagine since you feel so badly about it neither of you will do it again so job done I'd say, whether there was intent or it was accidental. Incidentally if her actual measured speed was 33 her speedo would have been showing more than that - 35/36 I'd imagine so how is it that she didn't notice that and/or the limit applicable to the road she was on and/or the camera/police car that trapped her for that matter. I bet she will be more careful now and that's what the fines are for and that's why serial offenders, as opposed to people like your wife quite probably, are treated more harshly - they didn't learn the lesson first time around.

Of course being caught doing 33 in a 30 doesn't necessarily make someone a maniac but it doesn't preclude the possibility either because that person may regularly commit more serious offences and not have been caught. I'd have thought that was obvious but there are maniacs on our roads and it is them I am referring to. Speeding is a major factor in dangerous driving as figures for the seriousness of injuries to pedestrians show - far more chance of being killed/maimed at 20mph than 30mph for example. Driving to the limit regardless of the conditions is also stupid yet you'll regularly see drivers doing 70 (and more) on busy motorways in the pouring rain, mist, dark, fog or whatever. I'm sorry but these people are idiots and deluding themselves that they're safe because they're not or are only just over the speed limit is pathetic. If someone killed your wife, God forbid, whilst doing a 30 in a 20 or 35 in a 30 I don't suppose you'd be too happy for the police to tell you they're too busy to prosecute because they're dealing with other things.
What would you say to the parents of a young child you were responsible for killing whilst driving above the speed limit, irrespective of the reasons for doing so? Nobody's saying that speed is the only factor or that obeying the limits guarantees safe driving - it doesn't. But we have to have limits and unless they're enforced people will do what they like on our roads.

Anyway there's a thread or two on speeding here where this has all been discussed before so I suggest you read it and post there if you wish to carry this on.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Curious the zeal with which they persue others who do not dance to their tune.

Your post is fairly typical of the approach you'd expect when dealing with a conspiracy theory - every act and circumstance is made to fit into the preconceived narrative.

[TheDaddy]

Six months to find her, wouldn't hold my breath

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...stigation.html

Originally Posted by Ramrod

I would too. If that had happened to my child and I was then subjected to the abuse and allegations they have had, I'd be outraged and out for blood.

However they are financially able to do so..Not everyone is.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Six months to find her, wouldn't hold my breath

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...stigation.html

I am surprised that it has continued this long but I suspect time limit or not this is a case that will still be kept open if on the back burner.

[MalteseFalcon]

I'm sorry, putting aside my views on this, if they haven't had a sniff of her whereabouts by now, what good is another 6 months going to do? Face it parents, the trail is frozen it's so cold.

And I'm sorry if I sound heartless, if it offends then put me on ignore.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Curious the zeal with which they persue others who do not dance to their tune.

Sorry for the belated reply, but I did miss this post post until just now..

While the McCanns have been quite ruthless in taking legal action, if someone accused you of either murdering your own daughter or assisting in her abduction, would you roll over and accept it, or take legal action?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Stuart

Sorry for the belated reply, but I did miss this post post until just now..

While the McCanns have been quite ruthless in taking legal action, if someone accused you of either murdering your own daughter or assisting in her abduction, would you roll over and accept it, or take legal action?

You could argue their negligence assisted her abduction, not that they need to be reminded of that, they must beat themselves up everyday over it and I'm surprised they've kept any semblance of sanity without rehashing things in court every time someone says something they don't like about their daughters disappearance

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Stuart

Sorry for the belated reply, but I did miss this post post until just now..

While the McCanns have been quite ruthless in taking legal action, if someone accused you of either murdering your own daughter or assisting in her abduction, would you roll over and accept it, or take legal action?

Or if I was guilty of a serious misdemeaner and close inspection of alternative narratives might just reveal it...

I'll just put my tin-foil hat on.

If the microwaves don't get you, the chemtrails will.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I think of two things here.
One the Police have the evidence to proceed further, that's why they have had a further SIX MONTHS to investigate.

Or, if not the case should now be dropped.

But,
Didn't a child reappear recently after disappearing for twenty years.

[Hom3r]

I can't believe that a post I started 9 years ago is sadly still going.

But there are several things that have happened to her.

1. Can't mention due to laws of the land.

2. She was stolen to order by some uber wealthy person who wanted a white girl as a new daughter.

3. She was taken to be used by men, for reason too sickening to be even thought about let alone written down.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Hom3r Points two and three, l totally agree with both.
When it came out, concerning Men. There were reports that there were some Pheadphiles in the area. The same day she disappeared. And that a well known British Phedo had been murdered. And that a man was spotted carrying a child. Away from the villa.

And, it was suggested that she was kidnapped by order.

Nothing surprised me about this disappearance. In fact, it would not surprise me that in a couple of years. She turns up somewhere. Over the years, there have been reports of missing children, turning up suddenly.

On the biggest issue. Did the Parents kill there own child - Definate NO. The British police would not go through all this trouble, if they did. That would be the first thing they would have checked.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Didn't a child reappear recently after disappearing for twenty years.

Jaycee Dugard disappeared for 18 years and had 2 children with her abductor.

The chances of Madeleine McCann reappearing seem slim but one can but hope. Her parents have experienced a living hell.

[kirk1690]

Originally Posted by Chris

Your post is fairly typical of the approach you'd expect when dealing with a conspiracy theory - every act and circumstance is made to fit into the preconceived narrative.

Dogs Don't Lie

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984

Putting aside my beliefs on the subject, surely it is high time they forget about this? The chances of her being alive now are slim to none. Why keep throwing taxpayers money after this investigation when there is no way she will ever be returned to Britain.

Follow Gerry's Missing Tennis Sports Bag.... ?