[Merged] Football talk - Page 123

iadom · 13-10-2004, 21:04

Steady, if unispiring performance from England. Watching the Wales game, cannot believe they are still level at half time, so many chances. It is getting a bit niggly so could be a tasy second half.

Come on Wales.

kronas · 13-10-2004, 21:19

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Originally Posted by Nugget

That was Beckhams best game in an England shirt for quite a while - he may still not be at 100% form-wise, but we haven't got anybody else with his ability from dead-balls and, IMO, he is probably the best at crossing the ball in the world.

i have to agree with the above, he also proved if hes given an angle hes more then capable of shooting from it in open play.

in response to what he did regarding the foul on thatcher, i say good on him, he got himself booked as he knew he was injureda and got the suspension out of the way, he never injured anyone, he just wanted the yellow card out of the way, i fully support his decision to do that, very smart move, he has not broken any FIFA rules etc, so he should not be punished.

if anyone wants to get sanctamonious about it they can, it still does not change a thing, its stupid that suggestions that players only undertake bans while fit should be implimented, its totally ludicrous.

nffc · 13-10-2004, 21:34

Sven Out- after the display tonight!

sherer · 14-10-2004, 10:58

wasn't a great performance against an average side but at least we got the job done.

Well done to Northern Ireland. They scored three goals in one match. After the run of not scoring they had it was a good performance.

Would have preferred the Poles and Austria to not score but we still looking good at moment. Need to improve performance and style of play still too many balls over the top even though we scored from a cross we didn't pump too many more in.

Nugget · 14-10-2004, 13:08

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Originally Posted by nffc

Sven Out- after the display tonight!

Sven out? What utter nonsense!

England may not play the best football around but, at the end of the day, we've got 6 points out of 6 this week (and, for that matter, 10 out of a possible 12, which isn't exactly rubbish).

Sven cannot directly affect the way England play during the 90 minutes and, taking into account the weather in Azerbaijan yesterday, Brazil would probably have had trouble.

TBH, I can't understand why people keep beefing on about Sven - when you see his results from competitive matches, it's practically unbeatable (I'm fairly sure that we've still only lost 2 while he's been the manager).

If you're going to criticise anybody, pick either the team who sometimes appear to lack the motivation on the pitch, or pick Mother Nature 'cos she's responsible for the howling gale and crappy rain that the match took place in!

16-10-2004, 14:44

Birmingham 0 Man Utd 0

Not a good performance from united, in fact rubbish

sherer · 16-10-2004, 15:20

yeah i wasn't impressed. Fortune can't pass or defend so not sure what he is doing out there.

At one point we had Nistelrooy, Smith, Saha, Rooney, Keane and Scholes out there and still couldn't string any passes together and had no idea what to do.

Birmingham played the better passing football.

BBKing · 16-10-2004, 17:05

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Not a good performance from united, in fact rubbish

While I dearly hope Manchester United carry this form into the next League game, I have a sneaking suspicion they'll play a lot better against us. Mind you, 11 points ahead, it doesn't make a lot of difference. Everton, Bolton and Middlesbrough are all above United now, all with better GD. Liverpool, Spurs and Newcastle can all go above United if they win their game in hand, too.

paulyoung666 · 16-10-2004, 18:06

up the boro !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

16-10-2004, 19:19

It has been a bad day all round really, now Chelsea have lost as well.

Let's hope Arsenal do not get complacent

16-10-2004, 19:23

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Originally Posted by BBKing

While I dearly hope Manchester United carry this form into the next League game, I have a sneaking suspicion they'll play a lot better against us. Mind you, 11 points ahead, it doesn't make a lot of difference. Everton, Bolton and Middlesbrough are all above United now, all with better GD. Liverpool, Spurs and Newcastle can all go above United if they win their game in hand, too.

You sound a bit worried, even with an 11 point lead

We won't catch you now will we ?
Mind you, it has been done before.

paulyoung666 · 16-10-2004, 20:04

going to get tucked into football first soon and see the boro's 4 goals

, go jimmy go jimmy go jimmy

BBKing · 16-10-2004, 20:51

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We won't catch you now will we ?

No, but Everton might. I'm always pessimistic.

Actually, Chelsea losing does take the pressure off next weekend a bit - I've always thought this season would be decided by who wins the mini-league between ManU, Chelsea and Arsenal, and since we've only had one game in that so far it was too early to tell. But the goals-for column is so massively out of kilter that the 'defences win championships' argument mightn't work. Arsenal currently have the worst defence of the three, 8 goals conceded against 7 for Man U and 2 for Chelsea, but those 8 goals have only cost us 2 points, while Chelsea's 2 have cost them 3 points.

Manchester United will come good, if they find a midfield (Rooney/Scholes?) from somewhere, as Chelsea and Arsenal (and a few other clubs - Xabi Alonso at Liverpool is a superb signing) are way ahead at the moment. No point having 65m quid of strikers with no supply.

17-10-2004, 00:28

For me Ferguson never seems to put out the right team, and it is not down to injuries, I think there is too much player rotation within the squad and nobody seems to gel.

This has been the case since Ferguson threatened to quit, plus another major factor in utd's recent demise from being the top team was the exit of Steve McClaren to Middlesbrough.

I say demise, but they are still a top team, but if they ever do gel and Ferguson stops messing about with rotation, all I can say is watch out, but I am not sure if or when that will happen.

With Ferguson spending all that money, if utd do not have any success this season, I am sure his future in his present position will be in doubt.
Move him upstairs and get Martin O'Neill in to deal with the current squad.

Having said all of the above, after 12 years of success, it was bound to come to an end at some point, so I can't moan really, but with the squad that they have they should be doing better than they are.

sherer · 17-10-2004, 20:41

yeah you right about never putting the right team out. How can you play Fortune someone who was a rubbish winger and not a defender at left back. How can Phil Neville get in the side as well.

We just don't seem to have any ideas at the moment and several players need to start performing. Scholes doesn't look as sharp as he used to and Giggs has been rubbish for a couple of seasons.

At this rate I can see us struggling to finish third.